Tomorrows WT

by Crazyguy 4 Replies latest watchtower bible

  • Crazyguy
    Crazyguy

    If my dates are correct they in this article go into again the idea that Jesus set up a covenant for a kingdom and again they mention how this kingdom is for just an Anointed few and of course the leaders are these Anointed. They quote Luke 22:28- 30 jesus talking to just his apostles states, (NIV)

    28 You are those who have stood by me in my trials. 29 And I confer on you a kingdom, just as my Father conferred one on me, 30 so that you may eat and drink at my table in my kingdom and sit on thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.

    What they do not mention is the scripture at Rev. 20:4 (NIV)

    4I saw thrones on which were seated those who had been given authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony about Jesus and because of the word of God. They [ a ] had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

    Notice that this scripture states these ones were killed and beheaded because of their testimony about Jesus. Do you know of any Governing Body member that was killed?

  • prologos
    prologos

    The only GB member that -'got the axe'-was Ray Franz.

  • prologos
    prologos

    seriously though: tomorrow's and the subsequent "studies" refer to the CHART, and under New Covenant it reads:

    "-- it provides a LEGAL basis for 1444 000 Christians to be adopted as sons of God and to form the SECONDARY part of the "offspring"--"

    reading the New Covenant reference in Jeremiah 31 though, makes it clear, that the New Covenent has only two terms, promises:

    a) the forgiveness of sins of all Israelites ( not just the kings, priests} and

    b) writing god's laws in the hearts of All Israelites, not just the custodians of the ark of the covenant, the nearby book, and the king's personal copy.

    WT is persistant in denying that forgiveness of sin by the New Covenant was PRIMARILY extended to believers in an earthly hope, the 12 or 11. andthat

    it will take 1000 years of hard labour to have your sins worked out of you.

  • Bobcat
    Bobcat

    CrazyGuy:

    That is a very interesting verse you pointed out (Rev 20:4). The enumeration of who "reigned with Christa thousand years" is as follows:

    (1) "those who had been beheaded for the testimony of Jesus and for the word of God"

    (2) and those who had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands.

    Revelation 6:9-11 has executed "souls" asking how long until justice is carried out. The response is that they have to wait "until the number of their fellow servants and their brothers should be complete, who were to be killed as they themselves had been." Revelation 7:1-8 then enumerates on this with the number of 144,000 (whether symbolic or literal).

    But notice who else above "reigned with Christ": "Those who had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands."

    In all of the other references to these things in Revelation there is no numerical limit:

    Rev 13:3-10 refers initially to 'worshiping the wild beast.'

    Rev 13:11-17 refers initially to 'worshiping the image of the beast and receiving the mark of the beast.'

    But notice who is enjoyned not to do these things:

    Rev 13:9,10, in giving warning about worshiping "the wild beast," the warning is addressed to "anyone."

    Rev 14:9-12 also gives warning: "And another angel, a third, followed them, saying with a loud voice, “If anyone worships the beast and its image and receives a mark on his forehead or on his hand, 10he also will drink the wine of God’s wrath . . . and they have no rest, day or night, these worshipers of the beast and its image, and whoever receives the mark of its name.” 12Here is a call for the endurance of the saints, those who keep the commandments of God and their faith in Jesus.

    As in chapter 13, it is "anyone" who is warned not to do these things.

    Rev 16:2 has the results of the "1st bowl of God's anger": "So the first angel went and poured out his bowl on the earth, and harmful and painful sores came upon the people who bore the mark of the beast and worshiped its image."

    Here, the results of the bowl are upon "the people who bore the mark of the beast and worshiped its image" So far, there is a clear demarcation. You are either one or the other (contra the WT's idea that there are 3 parties: the 144,000 who rule, a great crowd who don't but still don't engage in the idolatry of the 3rd group).

    Rev 19:20-1 has the wild beast and the false prophet who initiated the idolatry put away, and "the rest" (contextually, those who were misled) put to the sword:

    "And the beast was captured, and with it the false prophet who in its presence had done the signs by which he deceived those who had received the mark of the beast and those who worshiped its image. These two were thrown alive into the lake of fire that burns with sulfur. 21 And the rest were slain by the sword that came from the mouth of him who was sitting on the horse . . ."

    Again, there is only an indication of two parties: Those who worship the beast/image, and those who don't.

    It is on the heals of these verses that Rev 20:4 speaks of those executed for their faithfulness and those who don't worship the beast/image or receive the mark who are said to 'reign with Christ for 1000 years.'

    Bobcat

  • prologos
    prologos

    paragraph 4 is interesting, Only HUMANS were not allowed ti eat from it?

    and why did satan not dwarth Ho's purpose by having A&E not procreate? they were virgins, innocents after, all when the snake was talking! ?

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