KM "worksheets" for Bible "students", and a question about God.

by DATA-DOG 6 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • DATA-DOG
    DATA-DOG

    So, there was a KM part about worksheets for bible studies. It was:

    1) Watchtarded

    2) ironic/revealing

    One hilarious part came from a paragraph in the KM. When speaking of JW bible-based literature regurgitators, err, I mean " Bible Students", several points were made. They were as follows:

    1) Understand what the Bible teaches.

    2) Accept what the Bible teaches.

    3) Apply what the Bible teaches.

    The above three points were extremely important according to the KM. WHY???? Well, without meeting the above requirements, students will never progress spiritually.... Do I need to point out the irony? Probably not, but I will anyway.

    If the Bible is God's word, then JWism is a path to spiritual stagnation. The rank and file do not know what the Bible teaches, because the GB don't know, or they don't care. Epic fail for point #1.

    Points #2 and #3 naturally fall flat if point #1 is not met. Now, the question about God.

    There is a worksheet about God and suffering. It makes the point that God doesn't cause suffering, he merely allows it. There is an illustration of a loving father who watches his rebellious son leave the home. Supposedly the father doesn't cause the suffering of the rebellious son, he just refuses to shield him from the consequences of his actions. Ohhh...kay?!?!?

    Thats a great illustration and all, but ONLY if we are actually talking apples to apples. If I am watching my child play on a jungle gym and they are getting ready to do something foolish that could cause their death or maim them for life, do I let nature take its course? Jumping off something a few feet off the ground and skinning your knee is one thing, serious injury is another.

    What about a child who plans on diving in the shallow end of the pool? Do you warn them and then let them do it anyway? Would you remind them once they awoke from their coma and discovered that they were paralyzed from the neck down, that you told them so? Is that what a loving parent would do?

    The JW.ORG worksheet compares the rebellious son to "Satan" and Jeehoobie is the father. What it fails to address is the fact that the rebellious son doesn't just leave the house. He also causes the death of countless siblings, the other children in the home. What does "Dad" do about it? Nothing. He simply allows it to happen. Why? According to the worksheet, he does so to show the rebellious son that you reap what you sow. That's great if ONLY the rebellious son is involved. Even in that situation, a loving father would not allow their child to suffer irreparable harm. In fact, a loving father would devote their entire being to saving their child, perhaps insisting that the rebellious child receive treatment of some kind.

    Would a loving father allow the elder child to murder countless other members of the house to teach an object lesson? This thinking even goes against the WTBTS own literature. They state that DFing a child and excluding them from study ( having a parent study with them in private) is a PROTECTION for the rest of the children, yet they stand by their worksheet "logic".

    It's obvious to me why the WTBTS and all other authoritarian religions fear logic and reason. The ability to reason is a death knell for the ORG. Reasoning based on facts must be avoided at all costs. What do you think?

    DD

  • Terry
    Terry

    In the JW's the Bible is a strawman.

    It is used to supposedly prop up and vouch for the interpretations of the GB.

    The Bible is a ruse and a fetish.

    The Governing Body is the Mediator, what they print and preach takes precedence.

    I know a JW who was called before a Judicial Committee on a matter irrelevant to this discussion, but

    suffice it to say it was none of the Elder's business in any practical way.

    The uncomfortable moment came and this brother said to the Elders, "Where in the Bible does it say

    you can question a fellow Christian on such and such?"

    He was shot down immediately with the line of argument: "The ORGANIZATION is our source authority."

    He was then forced into acceptance/denial of that summary authority.

    So, you see, Bible is bullshit.

  • DATA-DOG
    DATA-DOG

    There is no defense against authority. LOL!! Wow! It's mind-boggling. The logic is, " We are the boss of you!"

    DD

  • AndDontCallMeShirley
    AndDontCallMeShirley

    If I am watching my child play on a jungle gym and they are getting ready to do something foolish that could cause their death or maim them for life, do I let nature take its course?

    Yes... if you are Jehovah or one of his Witnesses. It's the only loving choice you have.

    I don't remember the verse, and I don't care where my Bible is, but it says, 'you who have spiritual qualifications, try to readjust a man before he sins or is even aware of his wrong course'. (paraphrasing)

    So, apparently, Jehovah is not spiritually qualified to help anyone, as he does nothing ahead of time... ever.

    1) Understand what the Bible teaches.

    2) Accept what the Bible teaches.

    3) Apply what the Bible teaches.

    I'm not sure why WT even stresses this. Why does a JW need to read the Bible? The GB has the only acceptable explanations found in it, so what purpose would there be in a JW actually reading it for himself?

    "Listen, obey and be blessed" says it all. A JW is merely required to parrot WT's "Bible" message, not understand it or necessarily even agree with it. If a JW does read the Bible and disagrees with WT's take on this-or-that teaching he has no recourse. He is expected to shelve his Bible knowledge and toe the line... obey like a good little unquestioning robot, nothing more. If he decides to go with his conscience, he will be summarily dismissed and shown the door.

    In reality, Bible readers (more accurately, studiers) and thinkers are not welcome in WT World. The Bible is bait for the unwary, not a guidebook.

  • Phizzy
    Phizzy

    As I said on another Thread, the Bible teaches nothing at all.

    If you get to "study" with JW's they will use WT produced publications to tell you what they say the Bible "teaches".

    These publications are 95% Eisegesis, the other 5% is stuff no sane person could even read into the Text.

    If someone says "The Bible teaches" or "The Bible says" they are offering man's opinion of what the biblical content is. Read it for yourself after consulting some of the very good books available that tell you how to read it.

    JW's have nothing to offer in the way of insight as to Bible Study.

    I have come to the conclusion too that the JW/WT claim that their religion is "Bible based" is a deliberate misdirection, something can be based upon a collection of books, which is what Bible means, but not adhere to what is in those books hardly at all.

    By "Bible based" they mean that the GB and Writing boys make it up as they go along, and occasionally throw in a Bible verse to make it seem right.

    Charlatans.

  • stuckinarut2
    stuckinarut2

    Great thread!

    Great observations DD and others above...

    Yes, the reality is:

    "why let the bible get in the way of indoctrinating another potential Witness?"

    or:

    "what has the bible got to do with studying to be a witness anyway?"

    Just:

    "Do WHAT THE ALMIGHTY EFFIN DISCREET SLAVE SAYS and you will be blessed"

  • JW GoneBad
    JW GoneBad

    "So, there was a KM part about worksheets for bible studies."

    It was a hilariously retarded part!!!

    The instructions for the part were:

    'Draw the attention of the audience to the section of jw.org entitled "What Does The Bible Teach? (look under BIBLE TEACHINGS > TEENAGERS.)"

    About 90% of the audience spent the entire time navigating through the maze of the website on their electronic devices trying to find the 'work sheets' while the brother doing the soliloquy was making an ass of himself on stage!

    This business of using WT's website in meetings and in the field service is surely going to backfire!!!

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