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    SHOW: Dateline
    DATE: May 28, 2002
    WITNESS FOR THE PROSECUTION
    Announcer: From our studios in New York, here is Jane Pauley.
    JANE PAULEY: Good evening. At some point it may stop being
    news--each time another person comes forward to say they were
    sexually abused as a child by a trusted religious figure--but
    not yet, though tonight it’s not priests under fire. In fact,
    our story began long before the Catholic Church scandal broke
    last January. The scenario of alleged abuse is much the same,
    but the consequences of coming forward, for people whose faith
    was the center of their lives, would be harsh and profound.
    Here’s John Larson.
    JOHN LARSON reporting:
    In a small town like Othello, Washington, neighbors are often
    friends, and friends like family. Which makes the story you’re
    about to hear even more painful. Because, for Erica Garza, who
    grew up here, there was no one closer, no one she trusted more
    than her parents’ best friend.
    (Othello; homes; Othello city limit sign; Erica Garza; Manuel
    Beliz)
    Ms. ERICA GARZA: You would have never known by looking at him,
    or by the way he acted what he was doing on the side.
    LARSON: (Voiceover) What that friend, Manuel Beliz, was doing
    was molesting Erica, sexually abusing her. She says it started
    when she was just five years old.
    (Photo of Beliz; photo of Erica)
    Ms. E. GARZA: I remember it just like it was yesterday.
    LARSON: What was your reaction when he first started touching
    you?
    Ms. E. GARZA: I didn’t know any better.
    (Voiceover) I just remember it hurt.
    (Photo of Erica)
    Ms. E. GARZA: Out of anything, I just remember the hurt.
    (From home video) (Unintelligible)...my brother.
    LARSON: (Voiceover) A hurt that grew, she says, because her
    molester pressured her to keep it all a secret. And while that
    may not be surprising, this isn’t a story about a molester
    trying to stay in the shadows. This is a story about others
    who may have played a role not only in Erica’s abuse, but the
    abuse of other victims as well.
    (Home video; Beliz; shadow; photo of congregation singing;
    people holding hymnals)
    Ms. E. GARZA: They didn’t care about what had happened.
    Everything they did was trying to hide the facts.
    LARSON: (Voiceover) Both Erica and her molester were members
    of the same church, Jehovah’s Witnesses.
    (Church sign)
    (Excerpt shown from Watchtower Society video)
    LARSON: (Voiceover) Jehovah’s Witnesses are evangelical
    Christians best-known for going door-to-door handing out
    Awake! magazine. Jehovah’s Witnesses have six million members
    worldwide, and some controversial rules--no birthdays or
    Christmas, no blood transfusions, no military service, no
    saluting the flag--all of which separates them, sometimes even
    isolates them from mainstream America. In fact, in the world
    of Jehovah’s Witnesses, anyone outside the church--most of you
    watching tonight--are considered part of Satan’s world, a
    world which, as depicted in the church’s literature, will be
    destroyed by God. True Jehovah’s Witnesses, those who closely
    follow the church’s rules, will survive to live forever on a
    perfect earth.
    But now there are accusations that the church, run out of its
    headquarters in New York, called the Watchtower Society, is
    covering up cases of child molestation, protecting molesters
    and keeping secrets that put children at risk. Consider what
    happened to Erica Garza. By the time she was 16, Erica’s
    family had moved away from Othello to a new home and new
    Kingdom Hall in California where one day she found the courage
    to tell her family her terrible secret. And what did her
    father, Reuben Garza do?
    Report it to the police?
    (Excerpts from Watchtower Society video; congregation; members
    of congregation; woman being baptized; boy being baptized;
    books; artist’s drawings; New York City; Watchtower building;
    photos of Erica and others; Kingdom Hall; photo of Erica and
    family)
    Mr. REUBEN GARZA: No. Never mentioned report it to the police.
    (Voiceover) Take care of it in the congregation.
    (Kingdom Hall)
    LARSON: (Voiceover) Reuben Garza, who was one of the church’s
    lay ministers, or “elders,” says that’s precisely what
    Jehovah’s Witness leaders had taught him. And so instead of
    going to the police, he and his wife, Alexandra, called the
    elders back in Othello.
    (Photo of Reuben Garza; photo of Garza family)
    LARSON: But let me say the obvious. I mean, your daughter’s
    been raped. Didn’t you think, ‘I’ve got to go to the cops?’
    Ms. ALEXANDRA GARZA: That was my first reaction. But as a
    Witness, first you’ve got to go to the elders when you have a problem.
    LARSON: (Voiceover) But the elders didn’t go to the police,
    either. Why? Well, legally, they didn’t have to. Only 16
    states require clergy members to report any and all suspected
    child abuse, and Washington state is not one of them. Instead,
    church elders opened their own internal investigation. It’s
    one of the things that sets Jehovah’s Witnesses apart from
    most other religious groups. The church has its own judicial
    system.
    (Kingdom Hall; swings; Othello; Kingdom Hall)
    LARSON: Whenever a church member is accused of doing something
    wrong--whether it’s breaking a church rule like smoking,
    committing a sin like adultery, or even committing a crime
    like rape--the local church appoints a special committee of
    elders to investigate the charge. Now, if the accused is found
    guilty, they can be reprimanded or, in worst cases, kicked out
    of the church, disfellowshipped, potentially cut off from
    their friends and family, losing their chance, they believe,
    at everlasting life. For a Jehovah’s Witness, there can be no
    greater punishment.
    (Voiceover) Erica Garza expected her molester would, at the
    very least, be disfellowshipped. But after five months of
    waiting for the church in Othello to act, she got angry and
    did the unthinkable.
    Ms. E. GARZA: So I called my elders and I said, ‘Look, I’m
    taking it to the police.’
    LARSON: What did they say?
    Ms. E. GARZA: ‘Don’t. Or else.’
    LARSON: Or else what?
    Ms. E. GARZA: That’s what I said. I said, ‘Or else what?’ And
    he said, ‘Just don’t.’ I said, ‘What? I’ll be disfellowshipped
    if I take it to the police? Is that what’s going to happen to
    me?’ And he said, ‘Yes. You will be disfellowshipped.’ And I
    was just, like, ‘What? You’re going to disfellowship me for
    being raped, yet they guy who raped me is still a Jehovah’s
    Witness?’ And they said, ‘Don’t. Don’t take it to the police.
    You will be condemned by God.’
    LARSON: (Voiceover) It was October 1996, and Erica says she
    finally decided whatever the penalty, she had to go to the
    police. Following an investigation, Manuel Beliz was charged
    with molestation and rape.
    And the church? Erica says her California Kingdom Hall not
    only shunned her, but shunned her family as well.
    (Erica; Beliz; Kingdom Hall)
    LARSON: What happened?
    Mr. GARZA: Was removed as an elder.
    LARSON: So they kicked you out.
    Mr. GARZA: Yes, they did.
    LARSON: (Voiceover) Erica felt abused, abandoned by her church
    and alone. But what she couldn’t have known was that it would
    be four more years before another Jehovah’s Witness, this
    time, an elder 2,000 miles away, would take a special interest
    in Erica’s case. The elder had uncovered evidence, he says,
    that there were many more victims like Erica within Witness
    Kingdom Halls. And now he, too, was about to break with the
    church and go outside into what Witnesses believe is the realm
    of Satan--the outside world--to expose the church’s secrets.
    (Erica; Bill Bowen; meeting schedule)
    LARSON: You talking to me right now, it’s like you’re talking
    to Satan.
    Mr. BILL BOWEN: That’s correct. I’m attacking God, is what
    they’ve said about it.
    LARSON: In the view of the church, sitting down with us right
    now.
    Mr. BOWEN: Yes.
    LARSON: (Voiceover) Bill Bowen is a candle maker in Kentucky,
    and a lifelong Jehovah’s Witness. It all began, he says, about
    two years ago when he was filing confidential church records
    at the local Kingdom Hall and stumbled on this letter. It
    described an admission dating back to the 1980s, a molestation
    case that he says the church had swept under the rug.
    (Bowen making candles; letter; excerpts from letter)
    LARSON: About how old was this child that was involved in this
    case?
    Mr. BOWEN: As I reviewed the material, it appeared to me she
    was about 11 years of age.
    LARSON: (Voiceover) And the admitted molester? A man Bowen
    knew well, a fellow elder who got only a slap on the wrist
    from the church as was never reported to police. Outraged,
    Bowen put a message on the Internet to see if there were other
    similar cases. The response, he says, was an avalanche of pain
    and frustration.
    (Congregation singing; Bowen typing; responses on computer
    screen)
    Mr. BOWEN: These were all Jehovah’s Witnesses that had been
    molested and silenced within the church.
    LARSON: (Voiceover) Bill Bowen is not saying Jehovah’s
    Witnesses have more molesters than any other religious group.
    The problem, he says, is how the church handles the cases that
    come to its attention. Like the case of Daniel Fitzwater, a
    Jehovah’s Witness elder in Nevada. Bowen discovered that
    according to the church’s own internal records, church
    officials knew of 17 girls who had accused Fitzwater of
    molesting them. But police say the church never passed that
    information on to them.
    Bowen also learned that in New Hampshire Paul Berry beat and
    sexually tortured his step-daughter, Holly Brewer, from the
    time she was four. But Holly’s mother says that when she
    complained to church elders that Berry was beating Holly and
    her other kids, the elders told her to be a better wife and to
    pray more. She also says they never informed police as
    required by state law. The church denies that, saying she
    never told them of the abuse. Holly later ran away from home
    and says she disfigured herself with tattoos and piercings in
    response to the abuse.
    (Watchtower building; photo of Daniel Fitzwater; church
    records; excerpts from records; photo of Paul Berry; photo of
    Holly Brewer; photo of family; Kingdom Hall; photo of Holly)
    Ms. HOLLY BREWER: It started out by me internalizing the pain.
    It really did. It started by me, ‘I want to mess myself up. I
    want to make myself look as ugly I can. I don’t want any guys
    to hit on me. I don’t want to be attractive to people.
    LARSON: (Voiceover) Both Paul Berry in New Hampshire and
    Daniel Fitzwater in Nevada ultimately were convicted of sexual
    crimes and are now in prison. But Bill Bowen says many others
    in the church accused of sexual abuse have never been reported
    to police. It’s a claim he says he’s heard, though not
    verified, from several hundred current and former church
    members. His conclusion: disturbing to day the least.
    (Photos of Berry and Fitzwater; Bowen talking to reporter;
    text on computer screen)
    Mr. BOWEN: It’s a pedophile paradise within the organization.
    I believe that.
    LARSON: What’s the danger that you’ve been consumed by this to
    the point that--that you’ve blown it all out of proportion? I
    mean pedophile paradise? Come on.
    Mr. BOWEN: I believe it with all my heart.
    (Voiceover) There is a massive problem in the organization.
    (Bowen)
    LARSON: (Voiceover) But Bill Bowen is just one man in one
    congregation in Kentucky. This woman, Barbara Anderson, worked
    for a decade inside Jehovah’s Witness headquarters. When
    Anderson saw Bowen’s messages on the Internet, she says she
    realized she had to tell him there was much more to the story,
    involving children in many of the 11,000 congregations across
    the country.
    (Bowen; Barbara Anderson; letter on computer screen; Anderson)
    Ms. BARBARA ANDERSON: I don’t believe that they’re safe within
    their church.
    LARSON: (Voiceover) Anderson was a researcher at the
    Watchtower Society in the early 1990s when a senior official
    there asked her to look into the church’s handling of sexual
    abuse cases. What she found, she says, sickened her: hundreds
    of molestation cases on record, all kept secret in church
    files--secret not only from the outside world, but from the
    members themselves, the families, the mothers and fathers and
    children who trust the church is looking out for them.
    (Watchtower building; Anderson; filing cabinets)
    Ms. ANDERSON: I believe that if they asked to see the
    congregation records, they will find that there are many
    envelopes with letters that discuss men--or women--in the
    congregation that were accused of molesting a child.
    LARSON: (Voiceover) Why would the church want to keep these
    cases secret and in-house? Anderson agrees that part of the
    problem is the church’s distrust of the outside world, but she
    says it’s not that simple. Anderson says when church elders
    investigate crimes like child molestation, they follow
    instructions that may prevent them from taking action--ancient
    instructions taken from the Bible itself.
    (Watchtower building; Bible)
    Ms. ANDERSON: They basically use a scripture in I Timothy 5:19
    that states you’re not to make an accusation against an older
    man unless there are two or three witnesses.
    LARSON: What are the odds that there are going to be two or
    three witnesses to an older man molesting a eight-year-old
    girl?
    Ms. ANDERSON: No molester is going to have any witnesses,
    that’s for sure.
    Mr. BOWEN: The sum and total of their investigation will be
    going to a pedophile and saying, ‘Did you do it? Nope? Well,
    OK. Guess we’d better go on then. Sorry we bothered you.’
    (Talking on phone) Did he ask you any questions?
    LARSON: (Voiceover) Bill Bowen says if you want to get an idea
    of how the church sweeps cases under the rug...
    (Bowen talking on phone; traffic on bridges)
    Headquarters #1: (On phone) Good afternoon, Watchtower.
    LARSON: (Voiceover) ...just listen to part of a conversation
    Bowen recorded a little over a year ago with an official in
    the Jehovah’s Witness legal department.
    (New York City)
    Headquarters Receptionist: (On phone) Good afternoon, Legal
    Department.
    LARSON: (Voiceover) Bowen calls seeking advice on how to
    handle a suspected molestation case involving a young girl and
    her father. Instead of being told to report it to the police,
    Bowen is told to confront the suspected abuser.
    (New York City; Bowen talking on phone)
    Headquarters #2: (On phone) You just ask him again, ‘Now is
    there anything to this?’ If he says ‘No,’ then I would walk
    away from it.
    Mr. BOWEN: (On phone) Yep.
    Headquarters #2: (On phone) Leave it for Jehovah. He’ll bring
    it out.
    Mr. BOWEN: (On phone) Yep.
    Headquarters #2: (On phone) But don’t get yourself in a jam.
    LARSON: (Voiceover) Again, there was no insistence that this
    matter be brought to the authorities in the outside world.
    Bowen says he was so upset by the whole case he resigned as a
    church elder and vowed to help abuse victims. He didn’t know
    that halfway across the country, Erica Garza as feeling the
    same frustration as she prepared to face her molester in
    court.
    (Bowen and woman; Erica and family)
    LARSON: Did any of those elders, any of the people in the
    church stand up and speak on your behalf?
    Ms. E. GARZA: No.
    LARSON: (Voiceover) But Erica Garza was about to find out that
    she wasn’t really all alone.
    (Announcements)
    Announcer: DATELINE NBC, winner of 10 Headliner awards for
    excellence in journalism. America’s most watched, most honored
    news magazine, DATELINE, will be right back.
    (Announcements)
    Announcer: From our studios in Rockefeller Center, here is
    Stone Phillips.
    STONE PHILLIPS: She was just five years old when she says she
    was first molested by a respected member of her Jehovah’s
    Witnesses congregation. Now a young woman, Erica Garza wants
    justice. She says church leaders threatened to expel her if
    she went to the police, but she went anyway and now her
    alleged attacker is on trial for molestation and rape. Here
    with the conclusion to our story, John Larson.
    LARSON: (Voiceover) Erica Garza’s accused molester, Manuel
    Beliz, showed up in court with plenty of support.
    (Courthouse; empty court room)
    Ms. GARZA: (Voiceover) His side was full of Jehovah’s
    Witnesses.
    (Empty court room)
    Ms. GARZA: People I thought were my friends, but they were
    there to support him. And on my side was my family.
    LARSON: (Voiceover) Even though Beliz had apparently confessed
    his crimes before church elders, it appeared to make little
    difference. He was expelled from the church, but only
    temporarily. Elders allowed him to rejoin the church before
    the trial. John White, the congregation’s top elder, explained
    at a court hearing.
    (Beliz and man; entering courthouse; John White)
    Mr. JOHN WHITE: (From audio tape) We’re satisfied that he was
    repentant and could be admitted to the congregation again. To
    us, we don’t see a problem.
    LARSON: (Voiceover) White also told the court that when a
    church member is called before the elders and admits to a
    crime, they consider it a religious confession and that, just
    like a priest or rabbi, he and other elders have good reason
    not to testify about it in court.
    (Empty court room)
    Mr. WHITE: (From audio tape) Jehovah’s Witnesses do not want
    to harbor criminals or dangerous people. But we want the
    confidentiality because if that’s taken away from us, why
    should a person ever confess anything?
    LARSON: Did anybody say, ‘We understand the pain that this
    girl has gone through?’
    Ms. E. GARZA: They say we--they feel sorry for me.
    LARSON: (Voiceover) Even without the church’s help or the
    testimony of elders who, Erica says, knew what had happened,
    in August of 1998 Manuel Beliz was convicted, guilty on two
    counts of rape and two counts of child molestation. He was
    sentenced to 11 1/2 years in prison, but two years into his
    term, his conviction was overturned on a technicality over how
    the jury had been selected. Erica had stood up, faced her
    abuser, even challenged her church, but now he was being let
    out of prison.
    (Kingdom Hall; photo of Beliz; jail; empty court room; Erica)
    Ms. E. GARZA: I was so disappointed, I was sad, I was
    heartbroken and I didn’t know what to do.
    LARSON: (Voiceover) Manuel Beliz was released from prison to
    await a new trial. Last summer DATELINE found him back at the
    Kingdom Hall, about to join others going door-to-door,
    evangelizing for the church.
    (Beliz)
    Ms. E. GARZA: It just makes me so sad because I was raped and
    I was--I’m being shunned, and he raped me and--and he’s being
    loved. It just--it--it gives me chills up my spine just to
    think about it.
    LARSON: (Voiceover) How do Jehovah’s Witness leaders respond
    to complaints that they’re trying to bury cases like Erica’s?
    They declined a request for an on-camera interview, but spoke
    to us off camera, and provided us with a videotaped policy
    statement by spokesman J.R. Brown.
    (Watchtower building; excerpt from videotape)
    Mr. J.R. BROWN: (From videotape) Jehovah’s Witnesses feel
    child abuse is an evil. It’s an evil of our time, it’s an evil
    in our society and so we abhor it.
    LARSON: (Voiceover) Church officials say they publish articles
    like this, educating members and training elders how to help
    abuse victims. The church also says elders are required to
    investigate any allegations of abuse, and steps are taken to
    protect alleged victims from further abuse. And while
    officials acknowledge that molesters who repent are readmitted
    to church, they say known molesters are not allowed to hold a
    position of responsibility within the church. They also insist
    that the church complies with all laws on reporting abuse in
    those states where it’s required, even when there’s only one
    witness to the crimes. But in states where churches are not
    required to report, they say they do not discourage victims
    from reporting abuse to authorities.
    (Magazine articles; church name on building; congregation
    singing)
    Mr. BROWN: (From videotape) When it comes to the matter of
    reporting, then that’s something the parents can decide. We
    certainly never tell them not to report a case of child
    molestation.
    LARSON: (Voiceover) In a letter to DATELINE, the church’s
    general council adds that "it is possible that a few of the
    77,799 elders of Jehovah’s Witnesses have not followed the
    direction that they have been given regarding investigating
    and reporting child abuse."
    (Letters; excerpts from letters)
    LARSON: What remains unanswered, though, is why the church
    gets involved at all with investigating what are criminal
    matters. And just how often do they turn one of their own into
    authorities? We asked the church for some examples, proof that
    they’re as tough as they say they are on members who abuse
    children. The church waited six months, but finally offered us
    two cases. And right away we noticed something. In both cases,
    the victims were Jehovah’s Witnesses, but their alleged
    molesters were not. They were non-believers from outside the
    church.
    (Voiceover) In fact, we could only find two cases where the
    church took an active role in turning in one of its own,
    including the case of this man, Clement Pandello.
    (Clement Pandello)
    Offscreen Voice: Mr. Pandello...
    LARSON: (Voiceover) Pandello, seen here in family videos...
    (Excerpts from family videos)
    Unidentified Girl: (From home video) ...in the middle.
    LARSON: (Voiceover) ..confessed to church elders he’d molested
    his own granddaughter.
    (Excerpts from family videos)
    Mr. CLEMENT PANDELLO: (From video) Have to kick you out of
    school if they put one in your head.
    LARSON: (Voiceover) How did the church handle it? The parents
    of the young victim, Pandello’s own son and daughter-in-law,
    also Jehovah’s Witnesses, told DATELINE the church pressured
    to agree to a deal in which Pandello pled guilty to criminal
    sexual contact and endangering the welfare of a child. He was
    given only probation, no jail time. And what did the church
    elders tell Barbara and Carl Pandello?
    (Excerpts from family videos; Carl and Barbara Pandello
    walking on beach; excerpts from family video)
    Mr. CARL PANDELLO: We should just let it go, that it’s not
    Jehovah’s time to deal with it.
    LARSON: (Voiceover) The church says that’s not true, and the
    church apparently did disfellowship Clement Pandello two
    separate times. But each time they welcomed him back. So where
    is this convicted child molester today, a man who, according
    to court records, has admitted molesting girls all his life?
    DATELINE found him going door-to-door, a Jehovah’s Witness in
    good standing, evangelizing to people who know nothing about
    his record. His own son, Carl, says the church should know
    better.
    (Clement)
    Mr. CARL PANDELLO: He’s a sexual predator. When he goes
    door-to-door, he has a craving for young, juvenile girls, as
    he puts it. He’s looking at that child, having those immoral
    thoughts in his mind while he’s there.
    LARSON: You know the church now says they don’t have a special
    problem. It’s a societal problem and they do everything they
    can to stop pedophiles from hurting children within the
    Jehovah’s Witness church. What do you say to them?
    Ms. E. GARZA: Liars.
    LARSON: (Voiceover) Even though her accused rapist had been
    freed on a technicality, Erica Garza was not about to let him
    off the hook. Last summer, nearly five years after she first
    came forward, Erica headed back to court. Once again, not one
    Jehovah’s Witness from her former church came to support her.
    But this time, she wasn’t alone.
    (Beliz; Erica and others)
    Mr. BOWEN: ...comments we’ve made from all over the country...
    LARSON: (Voiceover) That out-spoken elder from Kentucky, Bill
    Bowen, was there.
    (Erica talking to Bowen)
    Mr. BOWEN: Just to even things.
    LARSON: (Voiceover) And Bowen had set up a new support group
    for sexually abused Jehovah’s Witnesses. And more than 20
    people who had heard about the case through his Web site were
    there to support Erica.
    Ms. GARZA: Thank you, everybody, for being here.
    These are people who don’t know me, who flew from all over the
    place for me, to be there for me because they realize, ‘Hey,
    you didn’t do anything wrong.’ And it was so encouraging to
    see people there for me...
    (Voiceover) ...as opposed for him.
    (People entering court house)
    LARSON: (Voiceover) In court, Manuel Beliz took the stand. He
    denied molesting Erica, but did admit touching her
    inappropriately. Once again, Beliz was found guilty.
    (Empty court room; photo of Beliz)
    Ms. E. GARZA: Guilty, guilty, guilty, guilty.
    LARSON: (Voiceover) Erica Garza says she has found justice in
    spite of her church.
    (Erica, Reuben and Alexandra coming out of courthouse)
    Ms. E. GARZA: Oh, I can’t believe it. On all four counts.
    Mr. GARZA: Just a little bit of justice. You deserve it.
    Ms. E. GARZA: Thank you, God. Thank you, Lord.
    LARSON: (Voiceover) Her molester has been sent to prison for
    11 1/2 years.
    Ms. E. GARZA: Thank you for all your help, Bill.
    Mr. BOWEN: Everything’s over.
    Ms. ANDERSON: You’ll sleep well tonight, won’t you?
    Ms. E. GARZA: Yeah.
    LARSON: (Voiceover) All Erica wants now, she says, is for the
    church to change its policy and give molestation victims
    simple advice.
    Ms. E. GARZA: ‘Take it to the police.’ Hey, encourage me to
    take it to the police. Don’t tell me not to.
    PHILLIPS: Erica Garza and Holly Brewer are both suing the
    Watchtower Society and their local congregations. The church
    is fighting the lawsuits. The church also told DATELINE that
    while some known pedophiles still go door-to-door, they are
    not allowed to do alone.
    Finally, four of the people DATELINE interviewed--former Elder
    Bill Bowen, Barbara Anderson and Carl and Barbara
    Pandello--are facing possible expulsion from their
    congregations.

    Keep the Faith
    RAY

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