A chat with my JW sister

by larc 7 Replies latest jw friends

  • larc
    larc

    A week ago I called my JW sister. She and I talk on a regular basis with a don't ask don't tell unspoken policy regarding the Society. She has not "witnessed" to me in many years. In this last chat, she choose to. After discussing some people we know who have medical problems, she stated her hope for everlasting life. Then she asked me if I had the same hope. I was evasive. Frankly, the conversation make me uncomfortable, not because I am unwilling to discuss anything, but because I saw no point in it. For me to pursue this would have only alienated my sister, and our communication would have ended.

    So, my question is: why did she chose to do this? My wife and I pondered this and could only come up with one possibility. She saw the Datline program and this has made her more militant. I just don't know. What do you think?

  • Amazing
    Amazing

    Hi Larc: It is possible that she saw, or heard of, the Dateline program and felt it is a form of 'persecution' against Jehovah's organization, 'deep in this time of the end' ... and decided to try and do her duty and share the 'truth' with you ... one last chance before Armageddon arrives ...

    Although it could be that she just happens to be going through a "binge of spirituality" right now ... maybe she is Aux. Pioneering, and needs the extra 'witnessing' time to meet her 60 hour goal. I did this at times with my non-JW family ... I felt bad that I had not 'witnessed' to them in a while, and decided to share the Good News once again, to pacify my underlying guilt ... and the extra time never hurt the monthly report.

    I know a number of x-JWs whose family members do the same thing ... they will even agree to associate for a while, and live by the Clintonian Doctrine of "Don't ask, don't tell" ... then they go away for a while ... again come back to try and really 'get through' to the x-JW with lot's of witnessing, then go away for a while, then again come back for just family time and "Don't Ask" policy is back in force ... it is like the weather ... the seasons seem to change on a regular basis ... like clockwork, for others the weather hardly ever changes, then all of a sudden a tornado appears.

  • Amazing
    Amazing

    Opps ... somehow, I double posted ... can't figure out how I do that.

  • gumby
    gumby

    Larc:..Then she asked me if I had the same hope.

    You family sounds like mine. We all talk but not about spiritual things.

    From time to time I get a response as you did such as;...."why don't you come back in the truth"?

    Every time I have adressed this type of question, it gets back to all the family that Larry is spreading apostate 'stuff' to the family.

    When I hear about it, it's my fault....I started it. I don't start it....they do...I only answered their question.

    They can say " why don't you come back in the truth, or do you think you'll ever come back or, your the one who left, it was your decision to leave"
    However.......WE are not allowed to say; " Do you think you'll ever leave the organisation?

    We are expected to be silent on these matters but they can ask all they want.

    I am glad for you larc, that you family and mine bend the rules on how to treat a disfellowshiped family member living "OUTSIDE the household. All of mine do...all 7 of them. Talk only....(not pal around)

  • cellomould
    cellomould

    Hey Larc,

    Amazing does a double post, and I managed to lose my post, which was almost complete. Well, I'll skip the intro this time and cut straight to the story. Hopefully you'll see the relevance.

    My father recently has written to the WTS about whether his choice of employment should be a disassociating issue. He works on a project that has both commercial and military applications. (So do I, but I don't have the elders on my back and a family to support. I have been inactive more than a year.)

    Before I found out about this, one night while talking on the phone he asked me how did I come to believe life evolved. I didn't realize until later the logical progression he had followed to get to that question. At the time, I said very little so as not to incriminate myself. (Although I regret that now.)

    So the challenge for me is to help his doubts become certainty. Just inches below his dangling feet is solid ground, rather than a sheer drop. How do I show him this?

    What I need to do is find out what he was doubting. Even though he gave me a mini-sermon at the time (which I refuted inside my head only), I later became convinced that something huge was brewing within him.

    So my point is:
    Ask the right questions. You know your sister well enough. Maybe simply ask her if something is bothering her. And just listen.

    I don't believe I have said anything you don't know already, but I hope I have helped to bolster your confidence. Your sister trusts you. You know you are worthy of that trust, despite the possibility she may not see it that way were she to know all.

    So why not give her the benefit of the doubt?

    cellomould

    An error does not become truth by reason of multiplied propagation, nor does truth become error because nobody will see it. Gandhi

  • Xena
    Xena

    Well you said you had been discussing friends with medical problems. This could have triggered the "well at least I have the hope of eternal life" button they have in their heads whenever death comes up.

    I find with my sister on the rare occasions we chat...if death or illness in any way shape or form comes up....this "hope" must be asserted. I think it is their way of re-assuring themselves that it isn't ALL for nothing. And then at this point they feel the overwelming need to "share" this hope with their family member or who ever happens to be within ear shot.

  • Dawn
    Dawn

    cellomould has a point! When my mom starts to question things in the society she just gets even more "preachy" - like she wants to convince herself and others that it's true. If she could get me to agree with her on a spiritual issue then she'd feel better about ignoring her own doubts.

    Could be that your sister has some questions or doubts of her own.

    I have been quite amazed at how many posts on other JW boards are from long time witnesses (20+ years) that are really questioning the "authority" of the society now. Post after post is about unjustices they see within their congregations - always followed by "how could Jehovah let this happen?". The way I see it - the newer ones are completely immersed in the "we're a family - feel good" era and aren't scathed by the Dateline episode - it's the long time JW's that have been around a while, seen some of the doctrinal flip/flop and hypocrisy - they are questioning it now.

  • Robdar
    Robdar

    Larc,

    I agree with Xena's assessment of the conversation. Your sister was worried about her own mortality.

    Robyn

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