by DoctorFeelgood 3 Replies latest jw friends
RUSSELL & THE SERVANT GIRL
"The gift of tongues and the laying of hands" was obviously something else Charlie boy misunderstood. I can just picture it - Let me lock the door while I lay this on you sister, Hmm
Hope everyone is feelingood this wonderful day.
And your point is?
-Seen it all, done it all, can't remember most of it-
Hi Frenchy
It was a rhetorical statement - sorry if it appeared otherwise.
Russell is a man without any credibility
Self styled prophets of God never stand up to close scrutiny. Russell (and he was by no means unique) set standards for others, he never kept himself. At some point, the halo's of self styled prophets, tend to drop down and strangle them.
Did not his wife divorce him for "his conceit, egotism, domination and improper conduct (adultery) with other women". He sued the Brooklyn Daily Eagle for liable, when the paper exposed his fraudulent attempts to sell ordinary wheat as "miracle wheat" to farmers at an extortionate price. Russell lost the case, the US authorties ordering him to return the money to the farmers. The expression "con man" comes to mind. Did he not lie under oath in court (a liable action he lost against Rev Ross) about his knowledge of Greek and Hebrew. Only when he was handed a copy of a Greek New Testament in court, did he concede that he new nothing of the Biblical languages. Factually, he perjured himself.
Now that's before we get to all of his failed prophecies. It is my view, that Russell took much from his involvement in Adventism. The SDA William Miller, had previously predicted the Second coming of Christ would be on 21/3/1843. when it failed, he changed the date to 21/3/1844, when that again failed, the Adventist Hiram Edson, claimed it had been "divinely revealed" to him that 21/3/1844 was correct, and that Christ had returned invisibly. Does the thread of this sound familiar. Make a wild claim, when quetioned for proof, claim it happend invisibly - Hmm
That's the short version.
I repeat, Russell is without credibility.
Hope all is well with you.
Hello Doctor,
Thank you for the reply. I don't know about all those things that you allege. I don't have access to the material to verify any of that even if I were so inclined. I doubt that any hardcore witness would accept any of this unless they could read the actual documents themselves while those with an ax to grind will accept anything derogatory so to me this is really without purpose.
Russell was a controversial man who lived a long time ago. He had plenty of enemies who I am sure had no qualms about not only pointing out his faults but also embellishing if not outright manufacturing some or most. A lot of this, I'm sure, is point of view. Sort of like the difference in the characterization you get of Castro (or Stalin, or Hitler, George Custer,George Washington, or even Jesus Christ and Jehovah himself) depending on who you ask.
I have issues with the Society. I make no secret of that. I detest some of the things they do and abhor even more so their hiding of what they can. It's seeing how they do things perhaps that makes me a little hesitant in taking delight in unpleasant and unsubstantiated sensationalism about them, their predecessors, or anyone else for that matter.
All is well with me at present, thank you. I hope that you are well also. I thank you for your input.
Frenchy
-Seen it all, done it all, can't remember most of it-
