by FusionTheism 6 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
I'm not sure the whole 607 B.C.E. controversy is really that major of a deal.
Even if the Society admits it and changes it, that's only a difference of 20-21 years, so the Governing Body could just shift 1914 to 1934-1935 and say that World War II and Hitler was the beginning of the signs.
A much bigger issue is why they even say Daniel's Tree Prophecy has an Antitypical Fulfillment, especially after their New Light on Types and Antitypes.
In one way, it seems that it would work to their favor; it would buy them 20 more years. However, I believe it would be a big deal since they've made so much noise about 1914 for so many years.
I don't believe Daniel chap 4 comes under the category of type/antitype. I believe JWs would classify it as a dual-fulfillment prophecy. Types/antitypes come from narrative accounts, not prophecy (at least that's the way I understand it).
The interesting thing about 2,520 years is that the WTS is just one of many nutjob religions that use silly biblical numerology. Once again, the WTS proves it is in no way "unique" when compared to all other religions.
Google it here, and see how many charlatans use this stuff to deceive their followers:
Oh and the WTS still lags way, way down there on page three of the results for "2520 years"
One would think the Almighty Jah could at least place his Chosen Organization's explanation of such an important prophecy at the top of Google's search results!!
Even if the Society admits it and changes it, that's only a difference of 20-21 years, so the Governing Body could just shift 1914 to 1934-1935 and say that World War II and Hitler was the beginning of the signs.
Problems include:
1) A 1984 WT which clearly stated it was not 1934 as 1914 was correct. Why did God's Organisation on Earth deny when his Son started to reign?
2) 1914 has been such an intense focus by the Society for 130+ years, that it makes God look like a muppet to allow his only Organisation on Earth to preach the wrong date - plus you have Deuteronomy 18:20-22
3) There are so many associated parts post 1914. Like 1919. They tie in the arrest in 1918 of the WT Directors and the subsequent release in 1919 to the fulfilment of prophecy. What about the 7 trumpet blasts of Revelation and the Cedar Point conventions. Where do you shift that to?
4) What about Carl Orloff Johnson's work that he sent in 1977 to the WT? He was disfellowshipped for pointing out 1914 was wrong. Many have been thrown out over knowing 1914 was wrong. Where was God's Holy Spirit at all their Judicial Committees? Why did God want a false date printed and why did he enforce that false date?
1914 is a millstone around their neck. They will get hammered for it (rightly so) for dropping it.
I don't think they even need to drop 1914. They've redefined the word 'generation' in a way which allows them to run with it for as long as they care to. They've gone from the generation which will never die to the generation which will never end.
Would large numbers currently inside notice to call BS on it? From listening to some inside talk, it's increasingly clear to me that many haven't really a clue on what they're meant to believe about some things. Just avoid looking anywhere but jw.org, parrot back the WT paragraphs on a Sunday and devolve thinking to the 7 old toads in Brooklyn.
A much bigger issue is why they even say Daniel's Tree Prophecy has an Antitypical Fulfillment, especially after their New Light on Types and Antitypes.
Good point. The other Daniel accounts do not have an antitypical fulfillment, so the onus of proof starts with showing that this particular one does. With their latest discussion about types and antitypes, I wonder how this will all pan out.
