Pontiac, MI Baptismal Stats

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  • outnfree
    outnfree

    An excerpt from Sunday's paper:

    http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=4386809&BRD=982&PAG=461&dept_id=467994&rfi=6

    More than 100,000 Bible-carrying Jehovah's Witnesses from 233 congregations scattered throughout the Lower Peninsula of Michigan and northern Ohio are expected to attend the 2002 Zealous Kingdom Proclaimers District Convention, which began Friday and continues through today.

    It's a religious pilgrimage that meant a lot for 75-year-old Howard Anderson of Detroit.

    He was the oldest of the 169 convention delegates who was baptized into the faith Saturday, a total that included 73 men and 96 women ranging in age from 10 to 75 years old.

    "This is what I want," Anderson said. "I want to show God how much I love him. After many years of opposing my wife, who has been one of Jehovah's Witnesses for 33 years, I'm ready to do God's will." The Oakland Press, Sunday, June 09, 2002

    That's a baptismal rate of 0.00169 per attendees and less than one candidate per congregation (about 0.75, actually). This cannot be good. And that's good.

    outnfree

  • AngryXJW
    AngryXJW

    100,000 / 233 = 429 attendees per congregation.<br><br><br> Someones math is off.<br><br><br> Guestimating an average of 150 x 233 = 34,950 attendees.<br><br><br>

    Edited by - AngryXJW on 10 June 2002 21:13:44

    Edited by - AngryXJW on 10 June 2002 21:14:47

  • Jourles
    Jourles

    That 100k figure is for all three days combined. I believe the range for the entire assembly increased at each intermission starting with around 36k on Friday up to 38k on Sunday.

  • ItsJustlittleoldme
    ItsJustlittleoldme

    .. Oops, nevermind.. Now I see what you are talking about...

    Edited by - ItsJustlittleoldme on 10 June 2002 21:24:55

  • dungbeetle
    dungbeetle

    but remember there are three baptismal opportunites per year, District conventions and Circuit assemblies and I can't remember,perhaps special assembly days as well.

    6 million JW's had 300,000 baptisms last year, so that gives...you never mind, I need dinner first.

  • outnfree
    outnfree

    Well, I considered that the 100,000 was TOTAL attendance for the 3 day session, but that's not the way the article read, is it?

    OK, so new stats: 37,000 on Saturday (Baptism day), 169 baptized = 0.004567 baptismal rate and STILL less than one person per congregation.

    AND the brothers (and some parents) are still letting children as young as 10 make such life-altering decisions!!!

  • dungbeetle
    dungbeetle

    no dinner this is a meeting night and I can't eat before the meeting (I might lose the food before I get home) coffee had to do.

    so, 169 baptised for 100,000. Multiply that by three (for the three times a year opportunities) that gives you 507. A hundred thousand is roughly 10 percent of a million (right I hope) so multiply by ten, and you get 5070.

    Last year in the US there were 27, 731 baptisms. How were many of those were children I wonder, how many have serious mental problems (which shoots 'informed consnet' or 'choice' out the window) how many were immigrants desparate to find a spouse and get citizenship; how many got baptised to please family members.

    Not to mention which, even with 27, 731 baptisms, the percent of publishers in 2001 over 2000? A big fat ZERO.

    They're voting with their feet all right...or with their pocketbook.

    Go JW's GO GO GO !!!!

  • Kismet
    Kismet

    What happened to the days when anything less than a 1% baptism rate was considered poor? What was this one? less than half of one percent??

    I guess Michigan and Ohio just isn't drawing that many 3rd worl immigrants or the 'birthin habits' of the JW's have declined...

    Glad to see the numbers going down

    Kismet

  • dungbeetle
    dungbeetle

    I dunno if you caught my other post Kizzy; of the 10 DC's near me this year, 6 are foreign language.

    So it is true that a lot of the so called 'increase' in the US ARE immigrants.

    It wouldn't hurt to take pictures of some of those children being baptised and sending them to Bulgaria, France, Russia, and Canada, along with the Watchtower that endorses the Expulsion and Shunning of children.

  • Farkel
    Farkel

    Kismet,

    :What happened to the days when anything less than a 1% baptism rate was considered poor?

    That's right, and 1% only compensates for the attrition through death.

    Thinks are not sparkly in dubland, methinks.

    Farkel

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