Memorial attendance

by QUANTUM 9 Replies latest watchtower child-abuse

  • QUANTUM
    QUANTUM

    I have worked for and with a JW for over twenty years. For the last three years he has not attended church in any way.......that is except one.......the yearly Memorial meeting. Prior to this inactivity he was a staunch supporter in every way a witness is expected to be. ie. weekly meetings, door knocking etc. Since then however, he has completely stayed away from church activities but remains a loyal and faithfull apologist ( defender of the faith).

    My question is as follows:

    The January issue of the Watch Tower in the yearly report, lists over fifteen million people in attendance at the yearly Memorial world wide. The U.S.A. attendance at the meeting, more than doubled the average of the of publishers for the year 2001. as well for the world wide publishers. The significance to all of this is baffling if you compare this once a year activity to similiar activities of other religions. It is my contention that no other church or organization could literally double their attendance by any meeting no matter what the drawing card may be.

    Now I understand that many in attendance of this meeting are investigators and vistitors. However, a significant number are the inactive members of the church which hardly ever attend, or never attend, except for this one yearly meeting, as does my friend. Further, it should be noted, ( and please correct me if I'm wrong) that if you are not at least a publisher the hope for living in the next life is next to nil. Granted, this meeting is the one and only celebration the Watch Tower Society recognizes as declared valid by "jehovah", but even so, without the lure of some other "hook" I don't get it.

    I could well imagine that if by attending this meeting, even if you don't do one other thing, "jehovah" would recognize at least this effort and there would be a place for those in "the here after". The embarressment alone, seems to me, would be a deterrant for not attending. If one does'nt go to church all year do they attend this one to be pointed out and possibly scorned and ridiculed? The vast majority of inactive members of my church, you could'nt get them to attend a meeting no matter what you told them.So it at least has the appearence that something else is going on.

    One of the reasons for my questioning this to begin with are the comparisons my freind and I have made between our separate churches. The church I attend has a membership of nearly twelve million, world wide. About half of those are what you would call active members. We also have some very strict doctrinal forms which could be equated in some regard with JW's. nevertheless, no meeting or special announcement, with the possible exception of the second coming, would stir these people. We have made other comparisons with are religions and the conclusions with regards to this once a year meeting remain unresolved...I asked him this same question the other day and the best answer he could or would give me is that it is a commandment and the only day celebrated by the witnesses....not a valid enough answer as far as I'm concerned!

    So what's the deal??????

    QUANTUM

  • NameWithheld
    NameWithheld

    Personally, though I have no facts other than seeing the mess in 'regular' churches parking lots around Easter and Christmas, is that they too 'double' or even 'triple' in size for their yearly celibrations. I think you would find many, many that attend just Easter meetings. Same reason drifted JWs go to memorial - just to 'keep a foot in the door' so to speak.

  • Beans
    Beans

    Math has always been a problem for Jehovahs Witnesses, I think the real attendance number was 144,000!

    Beans

  • NeonMadman
    NeonMadman

    I think you are dealing from a couple of false assumptions, namely, that inactive members would not show up for a single meeting and that they risk being scorned if they do go.

    First, it is not very likely that someone who attends only the Memorial will be shunned or treated badly. While the JW's can be very unloving to one who attends meetings regularly (or semi-regularly) yet does not "do enough", if a person actually becomes inactive, they tend to go back into the "love-bombing" mode that is normally reserved for potential new converts. So, a baptized person who does nothing all year, but shows up for the Memorial is likely to experience a positive reception, with the congregation being very warm and encouraging.

    As far as the organization not being able to marshall the attendance of inactive members, you have to bear in mind the importance and sacredness that is attributed to this occasion by the organization. It's not merely another thing one can do to get brownie points with Jehovah; not to go is seen as virtually tantamount to spitting in Jehovah's face. One is, in effect, showing his lack of appreciation for the opportunity for salvation.

    And there's nothing unusual about this phenomenon. Look at all the Christian churches, and how a church that is half empty all year long will be "standing room only" on Christmas or Easter. It happens in every religion, not just the JW's.

  • RedhorseWoman
    RedhorseWoman

    I did that exact thing for many years. Although I was inactive and didn't go to the regular weekly meetings because of the severe anxiety attacks I would get whenever I tried (was my mind trying to tell me something?), I would always put forth a supreme effort to make it to the Memorial.

    I know that in my case I wasn't trying to gain "brownie points", but rather I was trying to keep at least a tenuous hold on the faith that I then believed was true, even though I didn't have the strength to go on a regular basis.

    I hoped each time I did it that I would thereby gain the strength I needed to begin attending regularly.....a good dose of Holy Spirit perhaps?

    The JWs were generally welcoming whenever I went back, and it felt encouraging. At least I THOUGHT they were welcoming until my mother happened to mention something an elder told her when Memorial time came around, which was, "Well, the Memorial is coming up. This is when we'll see all the once-a-year Christians!" He then laughed and joked about it.

    To him it was a joke, and a matter of ridicule, even though he would put on a pleasant face and be very welcoming to those "once-a-year Christians." His comments cut deep, however, since in my case, and in the case of many others, it was truly a struggle just to get there ONCE.

    When I realized how my attendance was REALLY viewed, it put the proverbial "nail in the coffin" for me, and I stopped even that meager attendance. I knew at that point that my brothers didn't much care at all if I went to the Hall.

    My final departure (with no regrets) came several years after that, but I no longer felt compelled to push so hard to try to hold on. My "brothers" didn't care, and I was sure that Jehovah knew how difficult it was for me, and that HE would cut me some slack.

  • QUANTUM
    QUANTUM

    I am not the final word for all religious beliefs or philosophy. However, through some rather intensive self education I have come to under stand that most Protestant faiths have a much more lenient attitude where heaven is concerned. Merely by acknowleging your faith and love for Jesus Christ gets you in. So whether you attend once a year or every week, one's attitude is primary . The Catholics have death bed confessions so that gets them off the hook.

    I appreciate your answers but I'm still not "quite" convinced even though your responses are certainly valid.

    PLEASE TRY AND HELP ME MORE!

    thanks.....QUANTUM

  • LittleToe
    LittleToe

    Memorial time is the only time of year that they publish attendance figures, since it tends to be the best attended.

    The 6M figure is for door knockers, only, whereas the week to week attendances would have been somewhere between 6-15M.

  • ItsJustlittleoldme
    ItsJustlittleoldme
    Math has always been a problem for Jehovahs Witnesses, I think the real attendance number was 144,000!

    I didn't know they could find that many male vigin jew's anymore.. Ooops, sorry, forgot, they don't use that part of the scripture.. How silly of me

  • In_between_days
    In_between_days

    Memorial attendance by those who not only are inactive but actually DETEST the org is indeed a bizarre phenonmenon.

    Personally, when I discovered the truth about the truth I barred the memorial completely - what is the point? Why are we even celebrating the night jesus GOT BETRAYED anyway? And PASSING the wine and bread to each other because we are not one of the annointed and theres crazy aunt Iris taking a gulp, because she claims she is (obviously, she has not been difiled by a woman, so thats o.k) How can JW's possibly assume annointed can be females is beyond me, but thats another story.

    The reason so many inactive ones attend the memorial is GUILT - they have not yet properly let go, and still feel a little worried about whether or not they have made the right decision. It also is at times not worth the guilt trips that would be bestowed upon them by their families. I can totally understand this.

  • bad_associashun
    bad_associashun

    Remember too, the pioneers, etc... are working weeks in advance with handbills waving desperately grabbing their Bible Studies, mag takers, book placements- virtually, any & all who have ever come in contact with them- kids & other available family members in tow- to the Memorial, in attempt to 'up the numbers'.

    This is strongly suggested in the km weeks in advance each year, along with bringing inactive ones.

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