MN-Spare the Rod, Spoil The Organization...

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  • silentlambs
    silentlambs

    Well you might say we had a marvelous time in Minnesota. I traveled there on Monday of this week to meet with Jeff Anderson and discuss upcoming defendants that are coming out to sue Watchtower. On Tuesday I was able to meet Heidi Meyer for the first time. She had contacted me after viewing the Dateline program and was motivated as many others are to stand up and do something about being silenced by her local elders. Heidi reported that her molester may have molested as many as ten young girls. Yet he still remains a JW in good standing and reads for the book study. Along with Heidi is a Jane Doe who chose to remain anonymous to the public. Both are 22 years of age and on Tuesday through Jeff Anderson's office filed yet another lawsuit against Watchtower. This will now make officially five young women who are in litigation with the Society over being molested.

    The press conference was held at Mr. Andersons office. The office occupies the entire floor of a high rise in downtown ST Paul. We were hoping to have at least two cameras and a newspaper show up for the press conference. As the time of 1:30 P.M. neared the press just kept coming, we kept having to wait for them to set up more cameras. Finally fifteen minutes later we came into a huge conference room. There were five cameras running, representing a clean sweep of all televised media in the area. Both of the major newspapers were there along with the AP and a few other reporters that I did not know who they were with. We expected the press conference to last 15 minutes instead it lasted an hour. The reporters just kept asking questions, you know the kind JR Brown cannot answer unless he hands out his one year old video. It was amazing to see how quickly they were getting it and the look of disdain and shock when they realized what Watchtower Policy had done to these beautiful young ladies. After the conference the story was up on the internet within thirty minutes. We went out to celebrate and at a local pub, while there we got to watch ourselves on television. A few people came up to the table and asked if that was us on TV and we were happy to explain the basis for our faith.....no wait, instead, we talked about JW elders hiding child molesters locally. Everyone gave us atta boys and appreciation for what we were doing. One person there was so moved he bought everyone at our table a round of drinks as a salute. There are no words to describe the look of hope and vindication that was found in the eyes of these young sisters. They were no longer silentlambs they had taken their power back from those who had robbed it from them. There was also a young sister who came from over 1500 miles away when she heard about the lawsuit being filed. She just wanted to be there for support, she had never met either of these sisters before, she to is a survivor of a JW molester. It moved Mr. Anderson so much to see her there.. Well, lets just say you might be learning her name soon in your local paper, but why should we allow Watchtower to know when or where?

    As we sit and talked I mentioned that it appears we spanked Watchtower again. You may recall that as a quote that was made in the Paducah paper when the judicial committee failed to show for their hearing. I went on to say it seems this is getting to be a habit when you consider the events of the last year. Time and again when they maneuver their misinformation moves, it blows up in their faces. It was then Heidi made the comment, Well you know Bill the bible says, "Spare the rod, spoil the organization." What better quote to end this with than that, I think I will go write that on the bathroom wall, "Spare the rod, spoil the organization."

    Below you will see the articles I have been able to find on this, if you find others send them to me and I will put it on the sl list. Please remember to write the reporters and editors of these papers and express appreciation for their efforts.

    silentlambs

    Women allege abuse by Jehovah's Witness

    http://www.startribune.com/stories/462/3033760.html

    Paul McEnroe

    Star Tribune, Published

    Two women who alleged they were sexually abused when they were children by a member of the Kingdom Hall of Jehovah's in , filed a lawsuit Tuesday in .

    The women claim they were abused at various times by Derek Lindala of South Haven, , while on church-related outings and at Lindala's parents' home. The abuse reportedly happened during the late 1980s and early 1990s. Lindala wasn't available to comment.

    One of the women, Heidi Meyer, 22, said during a news conference Tuesday that she was between 10 and 12 years old when Lindala molested her many times. She said that when she reported to her parents that she'd been abused, elders ordered her to stay silent o isk being shunned by church members and losing membership in the congregation.

    The other woman who sued is requesting anonymity and is identified in the suit as Jane Doe. Both women live in the western suburbs of the Twin Cities.

    Lindala doesn't have a criminal record in , according to Sheriff Gary Wright. He said he could not comment on whether a criminal case had been opened in connection with the allegations. However, Jeff Anderson, the attorney representing the women, said his clients told him that they reported the case two weeks ago to sheriff's investigators.

    "I was molested repeatedly by a member who was allowed to remain in good standing," Meyer said. "I came forth, and the elders of the church determined that I mista ly interpreted the entire incident. They said that if I were to speak out, I'd face a judicial committee for spreading slander and gossip. That's a very powerful threat."

    Anderson, who has filed sexual abuse cases against Catholic priests and leaders in the Mormon Church, attacked the Jehovah's Witnesses' national organization, the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of New York City, saying its policy is to have elders confront people who allege abuse.

    Church responds

    When an abuse allegation is made, the elders on a church judicial committee speak to each party and decide who is telling the truth, said. He said such a policy is intimidating, especially for children.

    In a statement issued following the suit's filing, church elders in the headquarters denied protecting sexual predators in congregations. "We abhor the sexual abuse of children and wil ot protect any perpetrator from the consequences of this gross and perverse sin," the statement said.

    Bill Bowen, a Jehovah's Witnesses elder from whose nonprofit organization helps sexual abuse victims in the church, said thousands of members have come to his organization seeking counsel.

    "They live in absolute terror if they go public with their s es," Bowen said. "People like Heidi Meyer are heroes."

    -- Paul McEnroe is at [email protected] .

    http://www.cnn.com/2002/LAW/07/02/jehovahs.witness.lawsuit.ap/index.html

    Lawsuit alleges sexual abuse among Jehovah's Witnesses

    ST. PAUL, Minnesota (AP) --Two women sued their Jehovah's Witnesses congregation and the church's parent organization Tuesday, alleging church elders told them to remain silent about being sexually abused by a member.

    The church member, who allegedly abused the women as children, is also named in the lawsuit. The suit seeks more than $50,000 in damages for each of the women, now 22 years old.

    No one answered the phone Tuesday at the church in , about 60 miles northwest of the Twin Cities. Officials at the parent organization, the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society in , had no comment.

    The lawsuit alleges Derek Lindala, 30, molested one girl repeatedly when she was between 11 and 13 years old and another girl once in 1990.

    Both women say they told congregation elders but were told to remain silent. Police were never notified.

    Lindala, whose uncle is an elder at the church, did not return a message Tuesday.

    One plaintiff filed under the name Jane Doe. The other, Heidi Meyer of , spoke at a news conference announcing the lawsuit.

    "Living with this secret was very hard," Meyer said. "It's traumatic."

    Meyer said church elders told her she had misinterpreted Lindala's conduct, and because there were not two eyewitnesses, her comments could be seen as slander or gossip The other woman alleges Lindala molested her when she spent the night at his family's home.

    The women no longer belong to the church.

    Copyright 2002 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, oedistributed.

    Find this article at: http://www.cnn.com/2002/LAW/07/02/jehovahs.witness.lawsuit.ap/index.html

    Women Sue Jehovah's Witnesses

    The Associated Press,

    http://cgi.worldnews.com/?action=display&article=14438851&template=worldnews/search.txt&index=recent (AP) Two women sued their Jehovah's Witnesses congregation and the church's parent organization Tuesday, alleging church elders told them to remain silent about being sexually abused by a member. The church member, who allegedly abused the women as children, is also named in the lawsuit. The suit seeks more than $50,000 in damages for each of the women, now 22 years old.

    No one answered the phone Tuesday at the church in
    , about 60 miles northwest of the Twin Cities. Officials at the parent organization, the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society in , had no comment. The lawsuit alleges Derek Lindala, 30, molested one girl repeatedly when she was between 11 and 13 years old and another girl once in 1990.

    Both women say they told congregation elders but were told to remain silent. Police were never notified.

    Lindala, whose uncle is an elder at the church, did not return a message Tuesday.

    One plaintiff filed under the name Jane Doe. The other, Heidi Meyer of
    , spoke at a news conference announcing the lawsuit. ``Living with this secret was very hard,'' Meyer said. ``It's traumatic.''

    Meyer said church elders told her she had misinterpreted Lindala's conduct, and because there were not two eyewitnesses, her comments could be seen as slander or gossip

    The other woman alleges Lindala molested her when she spent the night at his family's home.

    The women no longer belong to the church.

    Las Vegas SUN


    Women Sue Jehovah's Witnesses

    http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/stories/text/2002/jul/02/070203038.html

    Two women sued their Jehovah's Witnesses congregation and the church's parent organization Tuesday, alleging church elders told them to remain silent about being sexually abused by a member.

    The church member, who allegedly abused the women as children, is also named in the lawsuit. The suit seeks more than $50,000 in damages for each of the women, now 22 years old.

    No one answered the phone Tuesday at the church in , about 60 miles northwest of the Twin Cities. Officials at the parent organization, the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society in , had no comment.

    The lawsuit alleges Derek Lindala, 30, molested one girl repeatedly when she was between 11 and 13 years old and another girl once in 1990.

    Both women say they told congregation elders but were told to remain silent. Police were never notified.

    Lindala, whose uncle is an elder at the church, did not return a message Tuesday.

    One plaintiff filed under the name Jane Doe. The other, Heidi Meyer of , spoke at a news conference announcing the lawsuit.

    "Living with this secret was very hard," Meyer said. "It's traumatic."

    Meyer said church elders told her she had misinterpreted Lindala's conduct, and because there were not two eyewitnesses, her comments could be seen as slander or gossip

    The other woman alleges Lindala molested her when she spent the night at his family's home.

    The women no longer belong to the church.

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    Two Minnesotans sue Jehovah's Witnessess
    By the Associated Press ST. PAUL, Minn. (AP) - Two women sued their Jehovah's Witnesses congregation and the church's parent organizatio...
    Missoulian Wed Jul 3 15:22:00 2002 GMT Translate

    Two accuse Jehovah's Witness of abuse; one says church...
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    Star Tribune Wed Jul 3 05:54:00 2002 GMT Translate

    Two Minnesota women sue Jehovah's Witnesses, allege...
    ST. PAUL, Minn. (AP) -- Two women sued their Jehovah's Witnesses congregation and the church's parent organization Tuesday, alleging chu...
    AP via New Jersey Online Wed Jul 3 01:47:00 2002 GMT Translate

    Two file sex abuse suit against Jehovah's Witnesses...
    After these incidents, said the plaintiffs attorney, Jeffrey Anderson of St. Paul, these women went to the elders, and they were told, ...
    Pioneer Planet Wed Jul 3 01:07:00 2002 GMT Translate


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    http://www.twincities.com/mld/pioneerpress/3588212.htm Two file sex abuse suit against Jehovah's Witnesses congregation BY STEPHEN SCOTT Religion Editor

    Two women filed a civil suit Tuesday alleging they were sexually abused as young girls by a fellow member of a Jehovah's Witnesses congregation in

    The women, both now 22 and living in the Twin Cities, say the religion's very tenets make it virtually impossible for victims to come forward, because at least two witnesses are required to corroborate any act of wrongdoing.

    After these incidents, said the plaintiffs attorney, Jeffrey Anderson of St. Paul, these women went to the elders, and they were told, 'We dont really believe you, because we require two witnesses to this for it to have happened, and if there aren't two, you are giving false testimony.'

    At issue is Jehovah's Witnesses understanding of the Bible, specifically Deuteronomy 19:15, which says a single witness shalot suffice in convicting a person of a crime or wrongdoing.

    Although Jehovahs Witnesses do not interpret every passage of the Bible literally, they base their beliefs solely on principles found in the Bible.

    If the accused denies the charges and there are no others who can substantiate them, the elders cannot take action within the congregation at that time, says the groups official statement called Jehovahs Witnesses and Child Protection.

    Both plaintiffs allege that while they were between 10 and 12 years old, they were fondled by a male member of the congregation who was eight years older.

    Named as defendants are Derek Lindala, 30, of South Haven, , who is alleged to have fondled the girls on separate occasions either in his family home or while on church-related activities; the congregation; and the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of New York, which is the Jehovah's Witnesses incorporated headquarters.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/uslatest/story/0,1282,-1851957,00.html

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    Women Sue Jehovah's Witnesses

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    ST. PAUL, Minn. (AP) - Two women sued their Jehovah's Witnesses congregation and the church's parent organization Tuesday, alleging church elders told them to remain silent about being sexually abused by a member.

    The church member, who allegedly abused the women as children, is also named in the lawsuit. The suit seeks more than $50,000 in damages for each of the women, now 22 years old.

    No one answered the phone Tuesday at the church in , about 60 miles northwest of the Twin Cities. Officials at the parent organization, the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society in , had no comment.

    The lawsuit alleges Derek Lindala, 30, molested one girl repeatedly when she was between 11 and 13 years old and another girl once in 1990.

    Both women say they told congregation elders but were told to remain silent. Police were never notified.

    Lindala, whose uncle is an elder at the church, did not return a message Tuesday.

    One plaintiff filed under the name Jane Doe. The other, Heidi Meyer of , spoke at a news conference announcing the lawsuit.

    ``Living with this secret was very hard,'' Meyer said. ``It's traumatic.''

    Meyer said church elders told her she had misinterpreted Lindala's conduct, and because there were not two eyewitnesses, her comments could be seen as slander or gossip

    The other woman alleges Lindala molested her when she spent the night at his family's home.

    The women no longer belong to the church.

    Minnesota women sue Jehovah's Witnesses - Miami Herald

    Two Minnesota women sue Jehovah's Witnesses, allege...
    ST. PAUL, Minn. (AP) -- Two women sued their Jehovah's Witnesses congregation and the church's parent organization Tuesday, alleging chu...
    AP via New Jersey Online Wed Jul 3 01:47:00 2002 GMT Translate

    Minnesota women file lawsuit against Jehovah's Witnesseshttp://www.kstp.com/article/view/23942/

    Publishing date: 3:26 PMBy ASHLEY H. GRANT
    Associated Press Writer

    (AP) - Two women who say they were sexually abused by a Jehovah's Witness filed a lawsuit Tuesday against him, their congregation and the church's parent organization in .

    The lawsuit, filed in Wright County District Court just west of the Twin Cities, seeks damages of more than $50,000. Three local congregation leaders are cited by name in the lawsuit, but are not defendants.

    Heidi Meyer, 22, of , claims in the filing that Derek Lindala, a member of the , congregation molested her when she was between the ages of 11 and 13. The other alleged victim, who has chosen to remain anonymous and filed as "Jane Doe," also 22, claims Lindala molested her in or about 1990.

    Both women say they told congregation elders about the alleged abuse, but were told to remain silent. Police were never notified.

    Lindala did not immediately return a phone message requesting comment. No one answered a phone call seeking comment at the church. Officials at the parent organization, the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society in , said they had no immediate comment.

    "I was molested repeatedly throughout a two-year period," Meyer said. But she said the elders determined she "misinterpreted" Lindala's conduct.

    She said church officials told her that because there weren't two eyewitnesses to the alleged abuse, any comments she made about it could be seen as slander or gossip, and that she could be excommunicated from the church.

    Doe told a similar story. She said Lindala molested her only once, when she spent the night at his family's home when she spent the night with one of his sisters. She also said the elders dismissed her claims, even accusing her of dressing provocatively.

    Lindala is eight years older than the two women. He is still an active member of the church, they said, but neither of the women are anymore.

    Meyer said she hadn't told her parents before filing the lawsuit. She said she planned to tell them later Tuesday.

    "I expect it to be a very hurt, very betrayed reaction," she said.

    Also speaking at the news conference was William Bowen, a Jehovah's Witness and former elder from , who runs a self-help group with a Web site for people molested by Jehovah's Witnesses. Bowen said he's been contacted by over 5,000 victims who want to get help or speak out.

    "Many of these victims live in absolute terror," he said.

    According to the lawsuit, Jehovah's Witnesses try to keep all matters internal. But Bowen said the elders are not equipped to deal with matters such as sexual abuse of children.

    The attorney for the women, Jeff Anderson, of , said he has received calls from about 100 people claiming they were abused by Jehovah's Witnesses. While this lawsuit seeks damages only for Meyer and Doe, he said the reason for the lawsuit is bigger. He wants the church to change the way it handles such cases.

    "It exposes them," said.

    A handful of other sexual abuse lawsuits against Jehovah's Witnesses are pending across the country, including in and .

    Women File Lawsuit Against Jehovah's Witnesses http://www.kare11.com/news/news-article.asp?NEWS_ID=32911

    Two women have filed a lawsuit on claims they were sexually abused by a fellow Jehovah's Witness member.

    A 22-year-old woman claims that a member of the congregation molested heepeatedly when she was between the ages of 11 and 13.

    Heidi Meyer says she ignored warnings from church elders when she decided to go public with her decade-old story of abuse.

    "They determined that I had misinterpreted the entire incident," said Heidi Meyer, adding that she was told she "needed to be careful about what I said about this because I did not have two eyewitnesses to the event."

    Meyer says she was alone with her attacker when the abuse happened. The Jehovah's Witnesses believe in a scriptural interpretation of the bible that requires two witnesses to a crime.

    That rule, says a former Jehovah elder who now runs a website for victims of abuse, gives pedophiles free reign.

    "I call it a pedophile paradise. These people allow children to be hurt and it's the victims that are suffering. It's the cries of these victims," said former Church Elder William Bowen.

    But more and more people who claim to have been abused are going to court.

    Jeff Anderson, a lawyer known for his lawsuits against alleged abusers in the Catholic clergy is now ready to take on the Jehovah's witnesses. He says the leaders of both churches are disturbingly similar.

    "They are patriarchal, they are hierarchical, and they protect the members of their church who are all male," he says.

    Those men, once revered, failed Heidi Meyer. She says that when she turned to them for help they turned her away.

    "I fully expected their support, their comfort, their shepherding and I received none of that, absolutely none of that," Meyer says.

    Meyer's is joined in her lawsuit by a second plaintiff, also 22, who claims the same man molested her about 12 years ago.

    Officials at the church's parent organization, the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society in , issued a statement saying: "We abhor the sexual abuse of children and wilot protect any perpetrator from the consequences of this gross and perverse sin."

    The women are seeking more then $50,000 each in the lawsuit filed in Wright County District Court. Named as defendants are the alleged abuser, the congregation and the church's parent organization in .

    The second woman says she also told congregation elders about the alleged abuse, and was also told to remain silent. Police were never notified of either case.

    Attempts have been made to reach the alleged molester for comment. He has not yet responded. KARE TV is not currently revealing the name of the alleged abuser, in part because he is not facing criminal charges and in part because he has not had the opportunity to respond to the allegations.

    (Copyright 2002 by KARE 11. All Rights Reserved.) (Portions Copyright 2002 by The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.)

    Edited by - silentlambs on 4 July 2002 14:37:25

  • dungbeetle
    dungbeetle

    ((((((((Bill ))))))))))

    see ya in New Yawk in September....silentlambs gonna wup their a**es!!!!

  • crawdad2
    crawdad2

    hi bill.................fifty thousand is way to cheap........ it's not fair to the victims.

  • Bang
    Bang

    What's the fifty thousand crap about? Is the lawyer a jw or something?

    Bang

  • zev
    zev

    can some one please email me the details regaurding september, new york and stuff.

    gwen and i want to give our support.

    me email is open.

    thanks.

    and bill, thank you for your efforts and helping the victims. i was not disappointed with the dateline program, and i made sure i told everyone i came in contact with to watch it. i got many positive responses afterward.

    zev

  • blondie
    blondie

    http://www.twincities.com/mld/twincities/5309091.htm

    MINNESOTA UPDATE



    Posted on Tue, Mar. 04, 2003


    CHILD SEX ABUSE: Victims urge extension of time to file lawsuits

    BY RUBÉN ROSARIO
    Pioneer Press

    Clutching stuffed teddy bears to symbolize their loss of innocence, adult victims of child sex abuse implored legislators on Tuesday to pass bills in both houses that would significantly increase the civil liability of a child molester and potentially those who employ them.

    "We are fortunate enough to have filed before the statute of limitations ran out, but we are far in the minority," said Heidi Meyer, 23, one of two former members of a Jehovah's Witness congregation in Annandale who recently filed suit against a male church member. "There are so many other survivors out there who don't have this avenue available to them."

    Meyer and other members of Survivors Network Minnesota and other groups want to extend the state's statute of limitations on child sex abuse, which currently prohibits child victims from filing a civil suit after they turn 24. State law actually requires the filing of a civil suit within six years of the alleged incident, but the filing clock begins at age 18 for child victims.

    The respective bills, sponsored by House Rep. Mary Liz Holberg, R-Lakeville, and State Sen. Gary Kubly, DFL-Granite Falls, attempt to bring the civil statute of limitations more in line with the "delayed discovery" spirit of criminal law. They would allow alleged child victims to file suit at the time they become aware of injury because of the abuse, not necessarily from the time the alleged offense took place. Child victims would have an additional window of 30 years from the time they turned 18 to file a claim against their alleged abuser.

    Criminal law allows the filing of charges three years from the time an alleged victim notifies authorities.

    "A (child victim), theoretically, at age 99, can report the sexual abuse if the perpetrator is still alive," said former House Rep. John Tuma of Northfield, who coauthored a similar bill last year that failed to come up for a vote.

    "Murder doesn't have a statute of limitations and the reason is that the victims are silent," added Tuma, who believes there's more bipartisan support this year for changes in law. "That's the issue here. The victims are silenced. A lot of times, it takes time and the distance from a perpetrator for them to come forward. "

    Citing the extended exposure to liability and other concerns, church groups and the Minnesota School Boards Association opposed some or all of last year's measures. With the new bills containing the same language, it is likely they will do so again.

    Online: Information about this legislation, HF386 and SF575, is available at www.leg.state.mn.us. Click on "Legislation and Bill Status" and type in the bill number.

    http://www.revisor.leg.state.mn.us:8181/SEARCH/BASIS/hstat/public/www/DDW?W=session_number+=+0+and+FILE_SEARCH+inc+'hf386'+and+ls_year+eq+'83'


    Rubén Rosario can be reached at (651)222-5266 or [email protected].

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