ACTIVE ELDERS PLEASE READ!

by lisaBObeesa 8 Replies latest jw friends

  • lisaBObeesa
    lisaBObeesa

    Here are some questions for the honest and good elders in the Congregation of Jehovahs Witnesses:

    #1. When a member of your congregation asks you if it is true that victims of pedophiles where/are often not encouraged by elders to go to the police, or where told to stay quiet because they have/had no second witness, WILL YOU TELL THE TRUTH?

    #2 When you hear members of the congregation attack the victims who spoke out on Dateline and Panoramavictims who did nothing wrong and whose lives where destroyed by evil menwhen you hear members of the congregation attack those victims, what will you do? Because you love the TRUTH, WILL YOU CORRECT THE MEMBERS OF THE CONGREGATION WHO ARE SPREADING MISINFORMATION, or will you allow the lies to spread and so allow the victimization of these brave young ones yet again? What would be the right thing to do? What would Jesus do?

    #3 If you believe that the victims on these shows are telling the truth about what happened to them, AND if you believe Brother Bill Bowen is correct that WT policy must change to protect the children, will you TAKE A STAND FOR WHAT YOU BELIEVE? Or will you allow Bill Bowen to stand alone?

    #4 Would you give up your position as elder for what is right? Would you give up your friends for what is right? Would you give up EVERYTHING for what is right? Isnt that what you as a JW have always believed? That you ought to actually LIVE WHAT YOU BELIEVE?

    #5 Why are you just sitting there??

  • patio34
    patio34

    I'm not guilty of being an elder, but want to reply anyway. What a farce, the WT "Child Protection Policy," they tout! I'm sure many thinking JWs (not an oxymoron!!) will see thru that. Well, one would hope . . .

  • ItsJustlittleoldme
    ItsJustlittleoldme
    I'm sure many thinking JWs (not an oxymoron!!)

    Nope, I agree, it's not an oxymoron.. But it is a short-lived event in time, for every time a JW starts to think, s/he soon becomes an Ex-JW!!!

  • silentlambs
    silentlambs

    I made the following post in July of 2001, on its anniversary, I think it is still relevant, the issue remains the same.

    This morning I received this story in my email:

    Dear silentlambs,

    I am now 36 years OLD. I type that in caps because I feel 100, my body and mind have been broken
    over the years by the " Brothers." My story starts at a very young age when my father an Elder in the congregation raped me. Did I state I was four at the time? Did I also say that my Grandmother and Aunt who both were Pioneers knew of the sexual abuse? Perhaps I should say I know for sure My Grandmother knew I KNOW my aunt suspected or just ignored "IT."

    "IT" was a very strong word in my home

    "IT" referred to my mothers suicide

    "IT "Referred to my Grandfather getting caught touching my friend in an inappropriate manner.

    "IT" referred to my Grandmothers Alcoholism, also my Fathers and Grandfathers.

    I am now left to sift through the Whys??????

    Why did my "Elder" Father r

    ape me and beat my brother and sister.
    Why didn't the elders do anything about it?
    Why did my Father stop at the age of thirteen????? Wait, I know I started my period!
    Why did another "Elder" join my father in sexually tormenting me?
    Why when this same "elder" beat his dog to death in a fit of rage (for barking) was he not " DF'ed
    Why when I Went to the Elders WAS I TOLD I NEEDED TWO WITNESSES???? Do you think that my dad and his friend would testify to their wrongdoing against me????
    Why do I still suffer??? And wonder if I did the right thing by leaving the Organization?
    Why did my mother kill herself?
    Why was my Father not DF'ed when 12 years later he went to jail for sexually abusing my Half-sister and some of her Witness Friends????????????????????

    Why why why..............

    Because THEY DO AND CONTINUE TO IGNORE SEXUAL DEVIANTS!

    Sincerely,
    CL

    I get these types of messages

    every week. Sometimes two, sometimes six or more. I am touched in ways I cannot describe and it helps me to know I must be on the right path. When all this started I knew something bad was wrong. As I came to understand it I became sick to my stomach to think I as an elder was supporting such an evil and wicked policy that must hurt children. There was no joy in serving anymore, it was painful and yet such a relief when I resigned to no longer be part of the problem.

    Then came the stories
    , in one weekend after posting my letter of resignation, over fifteen pages of email all saying the same thing, "it happened to me-I thought I was the only one." I could not comprehend the extent of what I suspected, yet as time has passed I realized it was worse than could be imagined.

    You tell me, how easy is it to tell about your molestation? How would you like to dig up the horrid memory of being raped by your father and share it for the world to see? There is no basis for doing so unless you wanted to help someone else and thought your story could help make a difference. This I am told time and again, they want to help protect the children. These victims want no money, no recognition, no "prominence," no purpose but to try and help others.

    How would you define a hero? Bravery? Someone who you would be honored to know? I say it is these silentlambs. They have been beat down, DF'd, pushed to the side, treated with disdain, called liars, have deep emotional scars to deal with, yet it is they who step up to the plate and try to make a difference in an organization who could care less about them.

    Ask yourself what would the silentlambs website be if it did not have the victims page? The issue would be laughed out of any serious consideration of this being a "real" problem. It is their courage that makes this issue real.

    While we appreciate the help of certain ones. For example, the murder letter was sent by one brave former elder, the 4-25-01boe media letter by another elder who wanted to help, the British boe letter yet another courageous elder was moved let everyone know. These persons were moved to do something and it has been of great assistance. Much more can and needs to be accomplished.

    I read with interest the comments of many who frequent this board who claim to be in "HIGH PLACES", they rattle their swords and offer sympathy to this issue, yet what commitment do they make to actually do anything about it? An expression that has been used by different ones on this board is, "all that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing", I remember this expression well, it was taped to my desk when I was fighting for justice on another issue within many years ago, I have thought about it many times over the years. Once again I see a lot of "good" men who offer kind words, but any more than that is a great big nothing. What have you men in high places provided in the way of hard copy to prove this problem? How many victims do you know of, that would be willing to speak at your suggestion? Why can't you speak up yourself, lay it on the line and tell the facts of this matter that you know to the press? Can you even send further proof anonymously to protect yourself? Would you be willing to testify in court to the reality of this problem? WHAT ARE YOU?

    May I offer an opinion? I feel the silentlambs have more courage in their little finger than you men in high places have in your whole body. Spineless cowards, company men much like the military men in
    who stood by while millions were killed and were to afraid to do anything meaningful.

    This matter is not about my stand; it is about what is right. Victims have spilled their guts to make this known, yet where are the men in high places who claim to have sympathy for this issue? You let children be molested because of the policy you support.

    It will no
    t change from within, if you want to make a difference you have to stand up for what is right. What are you waiting for??? This is it, the time is now, if you think you need to wait on Jehovah, how do you not know this is an effort guided by Jehovah that will succeed?

    When Jehu looked up at the window and asked, "Who is with me?" Those men had to make a choice. They had to either do what they knew in their hearts was right or they could have waited on Jehovah. Sometimes you have to grab evil and throw it out the window. While I claim no special dispensation, I stand before you now and say, "Who is with me?"

    You men in high places have a choice to make. Stick with the wicked bitch or stand up for the children. I ask no one to leave Jehovah but instead, to do what you know is right. If you have the power to make a difference and you choose to wait, stay out of the way, stay off the foru
    ms, stay close to your pedophile protecting friends. When they are thrown to the dogs you will be in good company.

    If you wish to help, email me, lets talk, I will protect your confidentiality but let's see if together we can do something meaningful to resolve this matter. Six months has passed, what has WT done to help the children? What you do from this day forward can make a difference and can help the needed changes come quickly. I have spoken
    from my heart now what does your heart move you to do?

    Will you help the silentlambs?

    I await your r
    esponse.

    silentlambs

    Edited by - silentlambs on 17 July 2002 1:10:20

    Edited by - silentlambs on 17 July 2002 1:23:9

  • sunshineToo
    sunshineToo

    Bill, it's me, Ji.

    I want to and WILL help you in any way I can only if you don't mind a disassociated one's help. ;-)

    This Silentlambs' case was one of the biggest reasons why I left the organization. I teach piano, and all my students are children. I don't have children for myself yet. But I love them and will do anything I can to protect them.

    All JWs have to think who comes first: God or the organization? Jehovah told us to protect the children, but the WT organization says to ignore. Whom should you follow?

    They keep saying the silentlambs are telling only "the half truth". Then what is the other "half truth"? Even a Governing Body member didn't want to talk about it. Why? If they are right and the silentlambs' case is "half truth" propaganda, WHAT ARE THEY AFRAID OF?????????

    To all "faithful" JWs, do you want to wait for your child to get molested or do you want to prevent it from happening? The elders are NOT going to tell you whether there is a pedophile in your congregation because they are told not to by the Watchtower Society. That was told me by the Body of elders in my congregation!!!!

    If you are an elder, do you have children? How would you feel seeing your child playing with a pedophile brother without knowing that YOU KNEW everything? How would you face your wife? Your friends and their children? Do you really think Jehovah would be pleased to see YOU scrificing children just to keep up with the image of the organization? What are you doing? How many times did we learn that the silence is acceptance? How many times have we read the acount of Israelites sacrificing their children for a pagan god and how Jehovah felt about it?

    DON'T YOU THINK YOU ARE DOING TO SAME THING: SACRIFICING THE CHILDREN FOR THE ORGANIZATION WHICH WAS MADE UP WITH IMPERFECT HUMAN BEINGS? Isn't it what the Society has been saying about themselves that they are imperfect human being as well just like us, and that's why they make mistakes and change things in the organization?????

    What does the Bible say about pedophilia? WHAT DOES JEHOVAH SAY ABOUT IT???

    Please open your eyes and wake up! Don't you think you have made enough of sacrificial smoke already????

  • abbagail
    abbagail

    Let's keep this one at the top, BTTT! I'm not an elder either, not even a JW anymore, but I appreciated the anniversary post of silentlambs.

    Hope all you elder types can help silentlambs, and if you ever need any assistance with your typing in my state, I'm still ready, willing, able. It's not much but it's the best I can offer, as a former legal sec'y.

    GRITS

  • lisaBObeesa
    lisaBObeesa

    Courage is not the absence of fear, but rather the judgment that something else is more important than fear.-Ambrose Redmoon

    The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for the good people to do nothing.

  • bluesapphire
    bluesapphire

    bttt

    elders, if you're out there, give us your answers.

  • HoChiMin
    HoChiMin

    Lisa;

    Along with all you've said, which I agree with. How about all the elders out there with something to loose?

    Elders: The WT will hang you out to dry! They will not defend you against a law suit if it is filed against you personally. With all the negative exposure "you" elders are a prime target for court action against you. Have you taken out ecclesiastical insurance yet?

    Oh, by the way, make the coverage as high as you can, good lawyers are expensive .

    HCM

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