Apostate Or Not? (Intro/Help!)

by Cardinal Fang 2 Replies latest jw friends

  • Cardinal Fang
    Cardinal Fang

    Hi everybody,

    I've been a long-time lurker and very occasional poster (it took me months just to make it to Junior Member) on this board but never got round to introducing myself properly, so I've decided to make a fresh start with a new persona - my potted biog's on 'Personal Experiences', if you're that interested, LOL

    Anyway, to put things as briefly as possible... I was born into the WT through my mother (30+ yrs. baptised); never made it as far as baptism (thank God), though I did make one concerted effort about 10 years ago when I was living away from my home town which was rejected on the grounds of insufficient hours - although I was regular, I didn't always make 'the ten' - I always found door-knocking a huge struggle...

    Fast forward... I finally went through quite a dramatic 'divorce' from the BOrg several years ago, mainly as a result of a major personal crisis (alcoholism) partly fuelled by raging cognitive dissonance - recovery meant I finally had to take a long, hard, honest look at who/what I was, and the rest was history...

    I tried to keep my thoughts to myself, knowing the shitstorm that would be unleashed if my family found out, but an ill-advised disclosure to a family member who was going through their own struggle with the WT but who wasn't as 'out' as I'd thought made for the inevitable consequences...

    Today, my sibs shun me, but I'm very thankful to have a far healthier relationship with my mother than I've ever had; although she did take it hard, I think the parental bond can overcome a lot (she supported my sister throughout her DFment), though I'm well aware there are many, many others who haven't been so fortunate...

    Anyway, to cut to the car chase... for a while, the issue of my 'official status' came up every so often - since I was never baptised, there seems to be some uncertainty as to whether I should be 'officially classed' as an apostate... generally, though, things with my mother have been fine. The other week, though, I met my father (not JW, but as I like to call him, a 'camp follower') in town and he brought the whole thing up again for the umpteenth time, saying that the issue was still troubling my mother (although I do remember her telling me some time ago that, even if she was told by the elders that I should be shunned as apostate, she couldn't go through with it).

    Now, all this time, I've kept my own counsel on the WT where my mother's concerned, for the sake of a quiet life; but now I've come to the point where I am seriously sick and tired of the WT's malign influence continuing to interfere in my relationships, so I think I'm finally going to have to bring the issue up with her. The line I'm thinking of taking is along the lines of: 'Do you think I am a better person than I've been before? Do we have a better relationship than we've had before? Have I ever tried to interfere with your activity as a JW?' I'd then stress that we'd both lose should she 'decide' (i.e. be pressured by elders or others) to shun me, and for what? To satisfy organisational rules (I'd then use a few scripture references to point out what Jesus thought of religious rules - "I want mercy and not sacrifice," etc.)

    All this is as much for her benefit as mine - it angers me that the WT's dogma is continuing to cause her this distress; in fact, and this may be totally wishful thinking on my part, I wouldn't be surprised if she might not be approaching her own 'crisis point' through all of this, or at least starting to seriously think about things....

    Anyway, that's my story; all I'm really asking for is for you good people on the board to give me the benefit of your experience - I'm sure there's plenty of you out there that know what this feels like...

    Regards, CF

    "They never told me what was the truth - just a young man losing his youth..." - 'Bear Cage', The Stranglers

  • LittleToe
    LittleToe

    It sounds as if the estrangement is with your dad and sibs, not your mother. If your relationship with your mother is generally ok, I would leave well alone. Why push her into a decision that she may not be ready for? The chances are that it may just cause more damage.

    Further, whilst she retains some contact with you, there may be opportunities to sow seeds of information that may lead her to the truth about the borg. Who knows what other circumstances may arise with other members of your family, too, if you retain this tenuous contact?

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    Edited by - LittleToe on 29 July 2002 5:30:38

  • Francois
    Francois

    You can never tell. I thought my uncle, whom I lived with while I was in college and who regarded me, by his own admission as, "the closest thing I've ever had to a real brother," would never shun me. He did. And so did his daugher, who lived with me when she moved from the mountains in Tennessee to Atlanta and needed a place to live. Haven't seen her in 25 years. And my grandmother (I was the first grandchild) and on and on in that vein.

    You just can't tell. After all, you are dealing with psychologically and emotionally unstable people. In the end, you must base your decisions on your own knowledge and intuition about your mother.

    Good Luck,
    francois

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