Shunning... the thing jdubs don't speak of

by freemindfade 9 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • freemindfade
    freemindfade

    Standing in the back now during the wt study. Looking ahead I find it comical paragraph 14

    "...you know how disfellowshipped ones are to be treated." Insert scripture references here.

    I find it funny they side step saying what to do. Sounds even more sinister to say "you know what to do..." than actually admit you tell people to shun

    let's review....

  • sparrowdown
    sparrowdown

    They and the mafia and other evil dictatorships do like their code words. They mafia don't kill people they are "rubbed out" or in WW2 the jews were not murdered they were "exterminated."

    JWs don't "shun"eww, they "disfellowship." Sounds far more civilized what? Toodle pip old chum.

  • Marvin Shilmer
  • joe134cd
  • DATA-DOG
    DATA-DOG

    LOL!! I read that too. They tell the public that they don't shun, but then remind the sheeple that a "code red" must be enforced.

    LET'S REVIEW....STFU..

    DD

  • Juan Viejo2
    Juan Viejo2

    Excellent article, Marvin Shilmer.

    While they haven't stopped at my house in a very long time (they don't even drop off hand bills and Memorial invitations anymore and when I do see them in the neighborhood they avoid my house - but they are very rare in this neighborhood anymore) - back when they did I tried to have a little polite fun with them one time.

    Two sisters knocked on the door. I gave them a polite greeting and let them say their prepared spiel. In those days they were still "placing" the 32-page versions of the magazines. I accepted them and then asked if they took "contributions" [JW buzz-word for donations]. "Of course," they said that they did and would be grateful for anything I would be willing to contribute.

    So I rummaged through my pockets acting like I was looking for some paper money to give them. Even if I had one hundred single bills in my pocket, I made sure that I didn't find any. So I'd told them to hold on and then walked back to the kitchen. While waving at her with hand gestures and mouthing "Say 'No, but I'll look in my purse!' " I made her understand that she was supposed to take some time "looking for money." In the meantime, I grabbed my little Maltese and returned to the front door to make more small talk with them. Finally, after they had waited there for a few minutes, I asked, "Oh, by the way. Do you actually shun former members of your religion?"

    Their first response was a quizzical look and an immediate denial. "No, we don't. We only avoid contact with those known to violate Jehovah's rules and laws like murder and stealing."

    "Would you shun your own relatives if they were thieves and murderers?"

    "Well, yes, of course. Those are serious crimes and anyone doing that kind of thing should be avoided."

    "Would you shun someone who didn't commit any serious crimes and never hurt anyone, but disagreed with some of your beliefs? Would you shun your own relatives if they no longer believed but never committed any other sins?" They returned blank stares at me and then each other.

    They hemmed and coughed and mumbled a few words to each other as they began moving backward. I asked the question again this way: "If someone was a JW and believed in Jehovah and Jesus and tried to do good, but simply did not believe that only 144,000 would go to heaven and that Armageddon won't happen in their lifetime - and disagreed with some, not all, just some of what the Governing Body teaches - would you shun them?"

    By now they have backed down the steps and are distancing themselves from my porch. Finally, I hollered at them, "Hey! I used to be a Jehovah's Witness.... ... ... ... don't you want my donation?"

    JV

  • Island Man
    Island Man
    What I find even more interesting is the fact that recent literature never mentions those who disassociate and how they are to be treated. It seems like Watchtower is very embarrassed about how they treat those who resign and are unwilling to leave a record of it in print.
  • DesirousOfChange
    DesirousOfChange

    It seems like Watchtower is very embarrassed about how they treat those who resign and are unwilling to leave a record of it in print.

    They can see the writing on the wall. Many governments are moving in the direciton of considering this to be a religious "hate crime".

    Oh dear.......more lawsuits.

    Doc

  • freemindfade
    freemindfade
    Island man I agree. Also at the convention I noticed every aspect of everything they say deals with two groups. Active in witnesses. Or people who haven't become yet. Only in about 1 minute of the last talk did they warn everyone about apostates. But it was a strong cult like warning. I think they are playing it safe not to mention what is their biggest threat as if it does not exist.
  • Vidiot
    Vidiot

    Juan Viejo - "...By now they have backed down the steps and are distancing themselves from my porch..."

    "Avert your eyes, children! He may take other forms!"

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