Extraordinary Groups

by Larry 7 Replies latest jw friends

  • Larry
    Larry

    I just finished a book entitled "Extraordinary Groups - An Examination of Unconventional Life Styles," by William M. Kephart & William W. Zellner (1991). Of course the BORG was mentioned, but before I get into that I just want to thank ??? ( I forgot her name) for mentioning The Oneida Community in a previous thread, which sparked my interest in that community and lead to the purchase of the book :)

    First, the very funny parts from the book regarding JW's:

    "states: masturbation can lead into homosexuality. In such instance the person, not satisfied with his lonely sexual activity, seeks a partner for mutual sex play."

    "Witness children are warned that masturbation can inhibit a happy marriage"

    "When members are asked how they know they are part of the "remnant," the response is always, "you just feel it."

    "Witness congregation save money in many ways. For example, they do not hire janitors. In most congregations, janitorial and maintenance duties are assigned to Bible study groups on a rotating basis. Most Witnesses are skilled or semiskilled laborers, so maintenance is never a problem for them, and thus, the Kingdom Halls are well cared for."

    "Sister are considered the weaker vessel...asked if she resented the secondary role assigned women by the Society, if she didn't think it was unjust that she couldn't counsel, in a official way, those who falter, or that she couldn't hold a leadership position in the church. "Oh, no!" she replied, and looked at the interviewer with a somewhat puzzled expression. "Women are not emotionally strong enough to handle those kinds of things."

    "Sickness and secular employment are acceptable excuses for missing, but if too many meetings are missed, a flagging Witness can expect a visit from a group of brothers."

    "Ushers, usually teenagers and always males, carry microphones....If a the child responds correctly, everybody beams approvingly....this process of question and response is an important "support of faith," and often takes the form of friendly competition. Many Witnesses preread the questions and then underline what they think is the appropriate response. No Abstract thinking is required."

    Some interesting items I never knew about or thought about concerning the BORG

    :

    Interestingly, Witnesses never use B.C. (before Christ) or A.D. (anno Domini) as calendar designation. their preference is for B.C.E. (before common era) and C.E. (common era) . B.C.E. and C.E. are equivalent to B.C. and A.D., respectfully;"

    "Members are, however, permitted to practice birth control. Witnesses are opposed to abortion, so birth control must not include the use of intrauterine devices (IUDs), on the grounds that these devices act to abort the egg after fertilization has occurred."

    "A similar episode involved Russell's endorsement and sale of a cancer cure, a compound of chloride of zinc, which may have sped some of his followers to an early reward. Not only was the caustic paste ineffective as a cure, it was damaging to those who used it."

    "The original building on the site (headquarters @ B'klyn) was the manse of the noted abolitionist Henry Ward Beecher."

    "Anyone who donated ten dollars to the Society was eligible to cast one vote at board elections. Contributors could cast one additional vote for each ten-dollar increment contributed above a minimum donation."

    "When one of the elders was asked by an observer why a press center had been established, he said that the Society had taken positions against draft registration and the Equal Rights Amendment, and they wanted the public to understand that their views were based on Scripture."

    "It appears, also, that most converts share many of the Society's social values before encountering the group. For example, the Society generally rejects voting; only two of the Witnesses interviewed voted before joining the group....All believe that the male should be dominant in the family unit...Joining the Society adds groups affirmation and justification for a life-style already chosen."

    Peace and Security - LL

  • abbagail
    abbagail

    Thanks, LL, for sharing this. It was quite interesting. I especially enjoyed these two quotes:

    "Anyone who donated ten dollars to the Society was eligible to cast one vote at board elections. Contributors could cast one additional vote for each ten-dollar increment contributed above a minimum donation."

    Hmmm..... so the ones with the dough also have a hand in the decision-making process...?

    "When one of the elders was asked by an observer why a press center had been established, he said that the Society had taken positions against draft registration and the Equal Rights Amendment, and they wanted the public to understand that their views were based on Scripture."

    I never knew the society was against the ERA... that must have been before my time... ?

    Grits

  • Big Tex
    Big Tex

    Yeah I'm kind of surprised they took a stand on the Equal Rights Amendment. I don't remember that, but then I was just a kid in the 70's. I didn't think they took positions on a purely political matter.

  • Jankyn
    Jankyn

    I don't recall that they specifically said that the Society was opposed to the ERA. What they did was include a lot of anti-feminist rhetoric in their usual drivel about a woman's "place," and use the ERA as an example of "extremist" views that were in opposition to Biblical principles.

    Jankyn

  • SYN
    SYN
    "Sister are considered the weaker vessel...asked if she resented the secondary role assigned women by the Society, if she didn't think it was unjust that she couldn't counsel, in a official way, those who falter, or that she couldn't hold a leadership position in the church. "Oh, no!" she replied, and looked at the interviewer with a somewhat puzzled expression. "Women are not emotionally strong enough to handle those kinds of things."

    It's still hard to believe that anyone could be so brainwashed that they'd actually say something like that!

  • teenyuck
    teenyuck
    "Sister are considered the weaker vessel...asked if she resented the secondary role assigned women by the Society, if she didn't think it was unjust that she couldn't counsel, in a official way, those who falter, or that she couldn't hold a leadership position in the church. "Oh, no!" she replied, and looked at the interviewer with a somewhat puzzled expression. "Women are not emotionally strong enough to handle those kinds of things."

    "I can bring home the bacon, fry it up in a pan....and never ever let you forget your a man! Cause I'm a WOMAN, Anjolie"

    Remember that song, from a perfume commercial? We are not strong enough-WAI (What An Idiot)

    "Members are, however, permitted to practice birth control. Witnesses are opposed to abortion, so birth control must not include the use of intrauterine devices (IUDs), on the grounds that these devices act to abort the egg after fertilization has occurred."

    Well, I truly am doomed. Too bad they don't understand that an IUD prevents fertilization. No fertilization, no abortion.

    An IUD is a small device which is placed into the uterine cavity. The vertical and horizontal arms of the Copper T 380 A IUD contain some copper. The IUD slowly releases copper into the uterine cavity. Copper stops sperm from making their way up through the uterus into the tubes, thus preventing fertilization. If fertilization were to occur, the IUD would prevent the fertilized egg from successfully implanting in the lining of the uterus. Among typical couples who initiate use of this IUD, less than 1% will experience an accidental pregnancy in the first year.
  • SixofNine
    SixofNine

    "Too bad they don't understand that an IUD prevents fertilization."

    "If fertilization were to occur, the IUD would prevent the fertilized egg from successfully implanting in the lining of the uterus. "

    please reconcile.

  • plmkrzy
    plmkrzy
    I don't recall that they specifically said that the Society was opposed to the ERA. What they did was include a lot of anti-feminist rhetoric in their usual drivel about a woman's "place," and use the ERA as an example of "extremist" views that were in opposition to Biblical principles

    Jankyn

    Your correct the issue I remember regarding "warnings" about the ERA was BRA BURNING

    LOL

    I remember that like it was yesterday. It became "UNCOOL" to wear a bra for quite a long time. Witness girls use to take off thier bras when they got far enough away from home then put them back on before they got home.

    Well, Not the spiritually strong one ofcourse rolls eyes

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