Book of Mormon messed up my Math

by Crazy151drinker 8 Replies latest watchtower bible

  • Crazy151drinker
    Crazy151drinker

    Ok, I know, another Mormon thread, but since we here like to talk about Religious things that dont make any sense to us, I thought I would bring this up. Maybe a Mormon viewer out there can solve this for me as this is the reason I wouldnt listen to anymore of their 'teachings'.

    Ok, here we go- Mormon math in the Introduction to the Book of Mormon: INTRODUCTION

    The Book of Mormon is a volume of holy scripture comparable to the Bible. It is a record of Gods dealings with the ancient inhabitants of the Americas and contains, as does the Bible, the fulness of the everlasting gospel.
    The book was written by many ancient prophets by the spirit of prophecy and revelation. Their words, written on gold plates, were quoted and abridged by a prophet-historian named Mormon. The record gives an account of two great civilizations. One came from Jerusalem in 600 B.C., and afterward separated into two nations, known as the Nephites and the Lamanites. The other came much earlier when the Lord confounded the tongues at the Tower of Babel. This group is known as the Jaredites. After thousands of years, all were destroyed except the Lamanites, and they are the principal ancestors of the American Indians.

    The crowning event recorded in the Book of Mormon is the personal ministry of the Lord Jesus Christ among the Nephites soon after his resurrection. It puts forth the doctrines of the gospel, outlines the plan of salvation, and tells men what they must do to gain peace in this life and eternal salvation in the life to come.

    After Mormon completed his writings, he delivered the account to his son Moroni, who added a few words of his own and hid up the plates in the hill Cumorah. On September 21, 1823, the same Moroni, then a glorified, resurrected being, appeared to the Prophet Joseph Smith and instructed him relative to the ancient record and its destined translation into the English language.

    In due course the plates were delivered to Joseph Smith, who translated them by the gift and power of God. The record is now published in many languages as a new and additional witness that Jesus Christ is the Son of the living God and that all who will come unto him and obey the laws and ordinances of his gospel may be saved.

    Concerning this record the Prophet Joseph Smith said: I told the brethren that the Book of Mormon was the most correct of any book on earth, and the keystone of our religion, and a man would get nearer to God by abiding by its precepts, than by any other book.

    In addition to Joseph Smith, the Lord provided for eleven others to see the gold plates for themselves and to be special witnesses of the truth and divinity of the Book of Mormon. Their written testimonies are included herewith as The Testimony of Three Witnesses and The Testimony of Eight Witnesses.

    We invite all men everywhere to read the Book of Mormon, to ponder in their hearts the message it contains, and then to ask God, the Eternal Father, in the name of Christ if the book is true. Those who pursue this course and ask in faith will gain a testimony of its truth and divinity by the power of the Holy Ghost. (See Moroni 10: 3-5.)

    Those who gain this divine witness from the Holy Spirit will also come to know by the same power that Jesus Christ is the Savior of the world, that Joseph Smith is his revelator and prophet in these last days, and that The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is the Lords kingdom once again established on the earth, preparatory to the second coming of the Messiah.

    OK, my main concern is in the first paragraph.

    The record gives an account of two great civilizations. One came from Jerusalem in 600 B.C., and afterward separated into two nations, known as the Nephites and the Lamanites. The other came much earlier when the Lord confounded the tongues at the Tower of Babel. This group is known as the Jaredites. After thousands of years, all were destroyed except the Lamanites, and they are the principal ancestors of the American Indians.

    It says that the Lamanites (who came over in 600BC from Jerusalem) where the only ones left after THOUSANDS of years and they were the principal ancestors of the American Indians.

    So we have 600BC+THOUSANDS of years= American Indian Ancestors

    Now typicly, when we say THOUSANDS we are talking 3,000+ but that would give us at least 2600AD so that doesnt really work no does it.....

    So lets go with Two Thousand which is in no way THOUSANDS but its all we can work with (and obviously it couldnt be THOUSAND becease then the Intro would have to read After A THOUSAND YEARS not After thousands of years- Still with me here???)

    Ok so we have 600BC+2000 years=1600AD as when the Lamanites where the only ones left and then they become the principal Ancestor of the American Indians. So then between 1600AD and 1823 all the Lamanites had become the indians as we know it. Now, when did Columbous Arrive? 1492?? I dont ever remember reading about Columbus meeting some Hebrew speaking non-indian middle easterners!! How is this possible??? When did cortez come in??? Last time I checked, when the Spanish came over, the Indians were INDIANS not some hebrew speaking middle easterners. Lets not even get into how INDIANS are Geneticly different than Hebrews. Where were all the great Lamanite Kingdoms when the spanish came over?? They still should have been there!!

    So basicly, it doesnt add up. If a Mormon viewer could please clear up this mathimatical problem without saying, "God got rid of them, or God changed them" etc..etc.. please do.

    -crazy

  • Valis
    Valis

    crazy....you must have switched to Russian vodka and lost your mind! I mean asking for answers from the WTBTS is one thing, but expecting some other moronis to admit they are followers of bullshit is asking a bit much! *LOL*

    Sincerely,

    District Overbeer of the "still likes the polygamy idea" class

  • Crazy151drinker
    Crazy151drinker

    Well, if they had stuck with Polygamy, I might have joined......

  • refiners fire
    refiners fire

    The other came much earlier when the Lord confounded the tongues at the Tower of Babel . This group is known as the Jaredites. After thousands of years, all were destroyed except the Lamanites, and they are the principal ancestors of the American Indians.

    I think the author means thosands of years after Babel. At least,I imagine thats what the response would be if challenged on it. Theyve always got an answer for everything, whether its credible or not is another matter.

  • gsx1138
    gsx1138

    The Mormons are the same as the Dubs. They have an answer for everything even if it lacks total logic. The biggest hurdle any morman has is the suspension of fact. There is no archeological evidence that what they say is even remotely true.

  • footprints
    footprints
    "if they had stuck with Polygamy, I might have joined......"

    Crazy151drinker you still got time. They practice it all over the place. Not just Utah. They most especially like to marry their younger brother's 15 year old daughters... That a way they can beat the hell out of them if they resist. They like it even more if the girls are twins....

    Disgusting bastards

  • blondie
    blondie

    According to South Park tonight, the Mormons have it right. The practicing JW was in hell with the Catholics and the Lutherans.

  • Double Edge
    Double Edge

    Footprints: I was going to ignore this thread altogether, but again, I just can't let this go by.....

    Crazy151drinker you still got time. They practice it all over the place. Not just Utah. They most especially like to marry their younger brother's 15 year old daughters... That a way they can beat the hell out of them if they resist. They like it even more if the girls are twins....

    Disgusting bastards

    Correction...Mormans do not still practice polygamy, they disavowed that in the 1890's...that's how Utah finally became a State. (During that time there was a hugh Congressional hearing about seating the Senator from Utah, because of this issue...it was the Watergate or Irangate of it's era).

    You're talking about a small group of people who "think' they are the true Mormans, but they don't attend any of their congregations, they have their own small 'in-the-home" church groups. For over a hundred years, any real Morman participating in polygamy is ex-communicated.

    They most especially like to marry their younger brother's 15 year old daughters
    You must have seen the same Dateline or 20/20 TV program I did that was on several months ago. Again, these are fundamentalist wackos. If you remember from the program, the State Attorney General who is himself a Morman has gone after the polygomists, including the brother you mentioned above. He's now in prison.
  • footprints
    footprints

    Double Edge any real Morman participating in polygamy is ex-communicated. State Attorney General who is himself a Morman has gone after the polygomists When he gets done in Utah he can start with the real Mormans in Arazona, Nevada, California, etc. It makes me feel so good to know that: "any real Morman participating in polygamy is ex-communicated." and all Jehovah's Witnesses who rape little girls have their priviliges taken away The Mormans and Jehovah's Witnesses are both closed societies. They both consider themselves above the law. Dispite what they may tell Politicians and Newspaper-Reporters, they both do dam-well what they want behind closed doors and the victums just have to swallow hard. They both have lots of victums. P.S. My book of Mormon was written in 1920. I will bet you have one of the new corrected ones.

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