Jehovah's Name!

by VeniceIT 8 Replies latest jw friends

  • VeniceIT
    VeniceIT

    One thing that really bothers me is how JW's think Jehovah will protect them from any scandle because they have his name and he won't want reproach brought upon it.

    Well, if they read their Bibles and looked in the Old Testament(yes I'm starting to lose the JWisms such as Hebrew Scriptures), how many times were the Isrealites (who he had chosen, and who everyone knew where his people), punished. He didn't hide what they were doing or pass over it to protect his 'name'. Why do the JW's have this dissolution.

    Jerusalm was allowed to be deystroyed twice, and each time the people knew it was because they had displeased Jehovah!

    So what makes them think he's changed so much where he will protect a small destructive mind control cult that harbors Pedophiles, deystroys families and peoples lives, simply because they had the adacity, and presumptousness to take his name. AHAHAHHAAHHAHHAAH!!!

    Venice
    P.S. I mean if someone went around doing things in my name, if they did stuff that was wrong or upset me, it's not going to bring reporaoch on 'my' name to expose them, it would actually vindicate it. So perhaps the JW's are going to have a hand in vidicatin his name, just not quite what they had planned though. HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH

  • unanswered
    unanswered

    very good point, venice. i totally agree.-nate

  • MDS
    MDS

    Hello VeniceIT:

    Your above post above, explains EXACTLY Jehovah's purposes and actions He will take, toward this wretched people, Jehovah's Witnesses and the misuse of His Glorious Name.

    You have truly revealed God's hidden purpose toward Jehovah's Witnesses, buried in "sacred secrets" thru out the Bible, in prophecy. -- Acts 3:21, 24; Romans 1:1,2; Revelation 10:7

    The prophet Isaiah explains explains at Isaiah 63:17-19 that just having God's Name upon one's self, DOES NOT save all the time...such as when being overrun by the Babylonians and captivity under them. He states:

    "Why do you, O Jehovah, keep making us wander from your ways? Why do you make our heart hard against the fear of you? Come back for the sake of your servants, the tribes of your hereditary possession. For a little while your holy people had possession. Our own adversaries have stamped down your sanctuary. We have for a long time become as those over whom you did not rule, as those UPON WHOM YOUR NAME HAD NOT BEEN CALLED." -- Isaiah 63:17-19

    Yes, Israel was treated as though, they DID NOT HAVE GOD'S UPON THEM...and what did this mean?

    They would not have any protection at all. They are now, just another nation, another nation that DID NOT carry God's Name upon themselves. They did not have any protection, now.

    Proverbs 18:10 says:

    "The Name of Jehovah is a strong tower. Into it the righteous runs and is GIVEN PROTECTON."

    Here we again, find a clear connection, between God's Righteous People, the nation that represents Him, and His Great Name...an eternal principle that must true for us today too.

    The two will never, ever be separated either. God's People, the righteous and God's Glorious Name. The two stay together.

    Jesus said it this way, about his disciples and sticking closely to God's Name:

    "Also, I am no longer in the world, but they are in the world and I am coming to you. Holy Father, watch over them ON ACCOUNT OF YOUR OWN NAME WHICH YOU HAVE GIVEN ME, in order that they may be one just as we are. When I was with them I used to watch over them ON ACCOUNT OF YOUR OWN NAME WHICH YOU HAVE GIVEN ME; and I have kept them..." -- John 17:11, 12

    The Bible, God's Prophetic Word, always lets us know that Jehovah God, will defend His Name, no matter what the "consequences" to Israel. No matter the reproach that has to come upon Israel.

    Ezekiel 36:22, 23 says:

    "Therefore say to the house of Israel, This is what the Sovereign Lord Jehovah has said: Not for your sakes am I doing it, O house of Israel, but FOR MY HOLY NAME, which you have profaned among the nations where you have come in. And I shall certainly sanctify my great name, which was being profaned among the nations, which you profaned in the midst of them; and the nations will have to know that I am Jehovah," is the utterance of the Sovereign Lord Jehovah, when I am sanctified among you before their eyes."

    No, Jehovah is not saving "Israel," for their good conduct...as the WTS would have us believe these scriptures are saying...no.

    No, but Jehovah is saving Israel, for His Own Name Sake...for His Own Names Sake...that all.

    Yes, it is only, His Great Name only, that God is determined to defend, to sanctify. Jehovah's Own Great Name, and that's it.

    So, God must discipline "Israel," the people who are carrying His Name, the people who are "profaning," His Great Name, like the WTS does today. Again, because they are wearing His Great Name before the public. And that's the only reason. -- Ezekiel 36:20; Romans 2:24; Revelation 13:5

    Ironically, this is the key verse the Watchtower Society uses to show in the book, "The Nations Shall Know That I am Jehovah" -- How?" that the political nations of the earth will come to "know Jehovah" when he destroys them for attacking His people, Israel.

    However, it is clear, the WTS has not checked the context, when choosing this text.

    The above text shows that ALL the nations will come to know Jehovah God, when he Jehovah himself, CEASES to Discipline Israel anymore...with much shame, humiliation and "loathing of self" to set in for their many sins and "errors." Clearly, Israel has "profaned" God's Great Name among the nations, and for this, must be disciplined.

    Ezekiel 36:29-32 shows this by saying,

    "And I will save you from all your impurities and call to the grain and make it abound, and I shall put upon you no famine. And you will be bound to remember your BAD WAYS and your dealings that were not good, and you will be bound to feel a loathing at your own person on account of your errors and on account of your detestable things. Not for your sakes am I doing this, is true utterance of the Sovereign Lord Jehovah, let it be known to you. Be ashamed and feel humiliation, because of your ways, O House O Israel."

    No, Jehovah is not saving "Israel," for their good conduct...as the WTS would have us believe these scriptures are saying...no.

    Jehovah is saving Israel, for His Own Name Sake...for only, His Great Name only...because they are wearing it before the public. And that's the only reason. Yes, they blasphemed God by their wicked conduct, as the people said of them...

    "... these are the people of Jehovah,"

    ...yes, they were called the "people of Jehovah," and that's where the reproach began. Yes, the "Name of God was being blasphemed on the account of these people [Israel] among the nations." -- See Ezekiel 36:20; Romans 2:24

    So, on the basis of these particular circumstances, Israel of old, and also Modern-day "Israel" of today, Jehovah's Witnesses, the God of Israel must act. Yes, God is duty bound, to defend, to protect, to Santify His Own Glorious Name, even if the people who carry it, do not do this, with their conduct.

    So on this basis, Jehovah God, will remove all reproach from His Glorious Name, even if it means, by the method of chastising and disciplining His Own Name People so that all the nations will come to "Know Jehovah." -- Ezekiel 36:23; Isaiah 30:26; Micah 4:6,7; Hebrews 8:11

    MDS

  • Cygnus
    Cygnus

    Venice,

    JWs believe that the organization has gone through several periods of sifting and testing, most notably the events of 1918-9. They believe that the greatest such test remains future.

    MDS,

    I'm curious. What happened when the 3 1/2 year prophetic period of reform regarding AJWRB and H2O ran out last fall?

  • Fredhall
    Fredhall

    Hey Venice,

    Why don't you lay a big fat egg.

  • unanswered
    unanswered

    hey fred,

    thanks for lending your intelligence-it always clears everything up.

  • Gianluca
    Gianluca

    Fred ,

    Venice posted a very good post and all you could tell her is that!!

    You are not worth the dust which the wind Blows in your face.

    And that a VERY polite way to say what i think about you!

    Gianluca

  • VeniceIT
    VeniceIT

    ROTFLMAO
    "You are not worth the dust which the wind Blows in your face."

    hahhaha ohhh that's a good line I love it,

    Venice

  • stephenw20
    stephenw20

    Venice,
    I am not posting this to correct you its just FYI stuff, in case it matters to you.......

    My brother keeps calling god YHWH and it irritates my mother ...maybe when she reads this she will feel all better!

    http://www.ynca.com/ishisnam.htm

    S

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