by Gerard 8 Replies latest watchtower scandals
"Rand also has Rand Technologies of Michigan, Inc. and Rand Worldwide."
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.aspx?id=36482&site=3
Could you please show me the relationship between these corporations? I need to have accurate information.
Thank you,
Gerry
Hello Gerard,
If you put those exact keywords into your engines, along with 'WATCHTOWER' and other words you come up with, you will have all you need in research on this topic. I have some select items in my files too. I will put up what I have, from the search 'hits' I've booked over the last two years re: this subject...
(stand by for links in new post below)
sKally
Hello. Just because certain company includes the word RAND in its name it does not mean it belongs to Worldwide Rand.
A wild search brings up: Rand Institute, Rand Areaguide, Dresser-Rand, Ingersoll-Rand, Rand McNally...get my point? It is like saying all bussiness containing the name Smith must be incorporated.
The Watchtower holds stocks on these two following companies, but when I looked for a link between Rand Cam Engine Corp. and Rand Energy Group Inc. with Rand Worlwide, I could not find any, that is why I am requesting this particular info so if it is true I can correct my article at http://www.geocities.com/wtgreed/article.htm Thanks.
Cheers,
Gerry
hey Gerard,
I'll have to go back and search more throughly through the info that I picked up from alot of different sites. What I did find regarding Rand Technologies didn't list the owners, but looks like they are most likely connected. I came across Rand Worldwide by way of Regi U.S. Like I said, I must have looked at twenty websites, and it's not fresh in my mind but it went something like:
This is a relevant part of a wire from 1987, before Reg Resources became Reg Tech.
___________________________________________________________________
March 17, 1987, Tuesday
HEADLINE: REG-RESOURCES; (RRE.V) Reg Resources and BTC Engineering report on
Rand Cam-Engine
DATELINE: RICHMOND, British Columbia
BODY:
Reg Resources Corp. can earn a 40 percent interest in Rand Technologies Inc. (a
private company) which owns 100 percent interest in all rights, title and
patents to the engine, by spending $200,000 on the development of the working
model Rand Cam-Engine.
______________________________________________________________________________
so Reg Resources Corp became Reg Tech, (who's subsidiary is Regi, who according to:
http://marketwatch.nytimes.com/custom/nyt-com/html-secfilingsfull.asp?symb=[RGUS&sid =[
financed their (regi's) operations mainly through a cost sharing arrangement and"funding received from our affiliate companies (common directors) and our controlling shareholder, Rand Energy Group Inc. and its 51% shareholder Reg Technologies Inc.")
so anyway, the Rand Technology Inc. that I found, some of the relevant part:
Copyright 2000 CMP Publications, Inc.
Electronic Buyers News Extra Supplement
May 15, 2000
HEADLINE: The 2000 Top 10 Nonfranchised Distributors (Part 3 of 3)
BODY:
Top 10 Nonfranchised Distributors
Companies Sales ($mil)
1999 1998
1. NECX.com LLC 287.0 244.0
2. Smith & Associates 282.0 423.0
3. Classic Components Corp 255.0 178.0
4. America II Electronics 190.0 175.0
5. American IC Exchange 121.0 95.0
6. Advanced MP Technology 103.0 102.0
7. Rand Technology Inc 82.3 37.2
7. Rand Technology Inc.
2132 Michelson
Irvine, Calif. 92612
(800) 249-7265
North American calendar-year sales
1999: $82.3 million
1998: $37.2 million
1999 global sales: $101.9 million
1999 net income: n/a
Status: privately held
Fiscal year ends: Dec. 31
Fiscal 1999 sales: $101.9 million
Fiscal 1998 sales: $40.4 million
Verification: letter from chief financial officer
Management: Andrea Klein, chief executive, Donna Merhab, president Jeffrey
Elder, chief operating officer, chief financial officer Gary Brewer, senior vice
president, sales and business development
Major lines: n/a
Number of employees: 63
Domestic sales branches: Irvine, Calif. (949) 250-6770
Type of distributor: broad-line
Value-added services: ISO 9002 same-day tape-and-reel component testing and
programming bar-coding excess stock management volume-purchase agreements
warranty to manufacturer's form, fit, and function EDI 24-hour operations,
global logistics
Rank last year: none
Rand Technology Inc. more than doubled its sales in 1999, topping the $100
million mark. That rapid growth solidified Rand's position as a key distributor
of passive components and spurred additions to the company's executive
management, sales, and purchasing teams, said Gary Brewer, senior vice president
of global sales.
____________________________________________________________________
This certainly does not prove that this Rand Technology, Inc. is the Rand Technologies, Inc. that Reg Tech could obtain interest in. After all, Reg was going to obtain interest in Rand Tech in '87, and according to this Rand's website (link above), it was founded in '92 I believe. But they also branched out from another Rand that existed before "92 because it states that the president was a salesperson for the company prior to that. There are quite a few coincidences. There are eight or so small "Rand Technologies, Inc." throughout the states, small sole-proprietorships with 1-4 employees that are listed as computer and equipment dealers or computer integrated system design, etc. etc. Another coincidence perhaps. I tried Oregon's secretary of state site only because Regi was incorporated there and I typed in Rand Technologies just on a chance.. It was Oregon's website that listed Rand Technologies of Michigan. Inc. Oregon doesn't require corporations to list owners, but Iisted its place of business as Michigan, its registered agent in Oregon, and its secretary and mailing address in Mississauga, Canada. I believe this is at:
http://sos-venus.sos.state.or.us:8080/beri_prod/pkg_web_name_srch_inq.show_detail?p_be_rst
Michigan's website showed that Rand Tech of MI, Inc has 2 employees, is a U.S. private company, incorporated in 1989, listed as doing computer integrated system design. Assumed names for Rand Technologies of Michigan, Inc., according to Michigan's Bureau of Commercial Services, are:
Assumed Names: Id Num: Filing date: Exp. date:
Ascent Centre for Technical Knowledge 386101 12-14-2001 12-31-2006
Rand Worldwide 386101 01-11-2001 12-31-2006
___________________________________________________________________________
That's where the Rand Worldwide came from. Never really checked any further than that, I wasn't even really checking Rand Technologies at the time. But I believe that all the little Rand Technologies, Inc.'s scattered around the states are tied to Rand Technology Inc., the semiconducter distribution company in California.
Edited to add and clarify: I know this Rand of Michigan, Inc. and/or Rand Technologies, Inc. may perhaps be a coincidence, but there just seem to be too many coincidences for something not to be connected. All I know for sure is that Rand Worldwide is an assumed name of Rand Technologies of Michigan Inc.
I tried to get on a database remotely but there seems to be a problem tonite. I will try again and see if I can find anything else. This is just what I had on hand.
Edited by - deddaisy on 24 October 2002 0:9:20
Edited by - deddaisy on 24 October 2002 0:36:24
Thanks deddaisy! You've given me enough leads now.
Cheers,
Gerry
"Just because certain company includes the word RAND in its name it does not mean it belongs to Worldwide Rand."
Yes, this I well understand sir. Yet, as I do MY research, and share (some) of what I have discovered and uncovered, the word WATCHTOWER' on ANYTHING, must be cut/ copied and pasted for others to do their OWN research on the items.
As I see it, it is not up to ME to determine what is or is not in direct relation to WTBTS when it is found on the net. I bring (some) of what I uncover here for others to 'run with it' and do some homework on it.
Incidently, have you read some history on the RAND name itSELF? Quite interesting to see where 'all roads lead'.
Thanks deddaisy, for your time and effort in this subject and the links.
And Gerard, great page...it's on my yahoo profile as a reference.
sKally
Gerard, anytime ! hope something there is of help. I'll look to see if I can find anything else, I've just been having a real problem getting on-line the last couple of days.
hey sKally, thank you for your many links! by the way, I really like your pic, looks like cactus flowers.
its past my bedtime, ta ta...............
