Does it really matter if people think it's real?

by kenpodragon 5 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • kenpodragon
    kenpodragon

    The common thing now a days in media is to try to disprove the likes of John Edwards and to say that these men are frauds. In reality though, when I see this happen I wonder how such people feel when they see evidence that perhaps Jesus Christ did not exist, or that Evolution might be right. The answer is, they would not like it. Yet does that change their faith, most likely not.

    Now in this line of thinking, I have often said that the only problem I have with the likes of John Edwards is the fact that people accept it, and in the process think that they need others to do this for them. Meaning, do I need a man to tell me that I have a person with me that passed and cares about me very much? No, because I honestly feel it and know it. Do I need a man to tell me that my crossed loved ones know and correspond with one another? No, because evidence in my life have unfolded to give me the perspective that this is happening.

    So what is often the objective of disproving something? Is it to save you from wasting your time? No, in reality this is often done to convince you that the person proving their point is more correct then you, and often it opens up to a conversation of them saying, "This is what you should believe." Basically, they want to take away your own spiritual search and replace your search with accepting the answers they accept and believe in themselves. Yes, they might mask that in saying, "No, I show you this so that you do not waste money." Yet in reality, most psychic or those who figure out their own personal ability. Charge absolutely nothing, and often just share their thinking casually or among friends. Even if they did, what makes them any different then the man who gets paid to "decorate your home", because after all he is doing nothing more then giving you his own opinion and taste on matters. Which means it comes down to being based on personal perspective, not facts!

    Now what is so wrong in believing or examining something that might not be provable in science? Well some say this is putting your mind into dangerous territory of accepting fiction as fact and falling into the fantasy world of illusion. Yet, isn't much of life all about illusion anyway. Are any of us really who people think we are? Are we not the illusion we project on to others in are manner and speech? In that we let others know about us, what we want known. So in that affect, why does it matter that we accept or search through things that might seem like a illusion to others. When life is nothing more then illusions that our mind accepts as real anyway.

    Now with all this in mind. One question really stands out above all things. Why would any of us really care what another person thinks of us? If we want to watch "Crossing Over with John Edwards" or attend and study Pagan, Wicca, or Shaman seminars and meetings. Who's business is it but our own? After all, do we not control our own breathing, our own heartbeat and the ability to think what we want? Then why not control what you want to search in? What you want to believe in, and do not allow your mind to let others say "this is wrong" and "this is right" and accept those doubts as real, without allowing yourself to research through the information on your own, first.

    My thought

    Dragon

    Edited by - kenpodragon on 1 November 2002 2:30:7

  • Navigator
    Navigator

    Ken

    Part of the price of admission to this life experience is the acceptance of the belief that it is real. We are taught to rely on our senses in order to determine what reality is for us. Yet, we know that our bodily senses are very unreliable. That which seems solid to our human sight and touch is, in reality, mostly empty space. The Hindus call it "Maya" which means illusion. And they are right! I, like you, have good reason to believe that I have loved ones on the "other side" who care for me and occassionally find little ways to let me know they are there. I have known folks, however, that get so distracted trying to communicate with those "crossed over" that they don't live life on this side. Some seem to think that those crossed over are enlightened and know more than we do. Probably not. If you apply the definition of "permanent" to the term real, then all of this is illusion because none of it will last. Perhaps we have enrolled in a crash couse of spiritual development called "Earth Experience 101".

  • Pathofthorns
    Pathofthorns

    I can say i am not terribly thrilled that at one time I thought the JW religion was "real". That belief being false DID matter to me since beliefs of that sort ultimately end up facing reality and can have painful consequences.

    So I think sometimes it does matter but there are more times that it does not. It is mostly the responsibility of each individual person to make sure their life is as "real" as they want it to be i guess.

    Path

  • Sirona
    Sirona
    Now with all this in mind. One question really stands out above all things. Why would any of us really care what another person thinks of us? If we want to watch "Crossing Over with John Edwards" or attend and study Pagan, Wicca, or Shaman seminars and meetings. Who's business is it but our own? After all, do we not control our own breathing, our own heartbeat and the ability to think what we want? Then why not control what you want to search in? What you want to believe in, and do not allow your mind to let others say "this is wrong" and "this is right" and accept those doubts as real, without allowing yourself to research through the information on your own, first.

    YES! I agree! Thanks for posting that.

    Sirona

  • Sentinel
    Sentinel

    Ken, this is a great thread.

    You said it all very well, indeed! We are free to explore all the avenues and open all the doors available to us; and then we can decide for ourselves how best to live our life in one or more of those places. Thanks.

  • Kingpawn
    Kingpawn

    I usually try to avoid "me too" postings, but I have to agree this is an excellent thread. Kenpo makes a great case for searching on your own and the motives behind those who say they "know." A shame there's no way to print out a single post--I'll have to make note of this. Very well written!

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