TWO-WITNESS RULE - Watchtower QUOTES

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    UnDisfellowshipped

    Below are Watchtower Society QUOTES about the "2-Witness Rule":

    The Watchtower October 1st 1977 Issue, Page 607:

    Questions from Readers

    My unbelieving husband admitted to me that he has another woman. Is his admission sufficient ground for a Scriptural divorce?

    In some cases if a Christians unbelieving mate admits to committing immorality, that would provide a Scriptural basis for a divorce, which, in turn, would free the innocent Christian for remarriage if desired.

    Jehovah God's law to the ancient nation of made provision for divorce on various grounds. (Deut. 24:1, 2) Adultery, homosexuality and bestiality were bases for ending a marriage; the guilty person was to be executed. (Deut. 22:22-24; Lev. 18:22, 23) However, the Law set forth this important requirement: At the mouth of two witnesses or of three witnesses the one dying should be put to death. He will not be put to death at the mouth of one witness. (Deut. 17:6; ; Num. 35:30) Being a lover of righteousness and justice, Jehovah required that such matters be determined on the basis of proof, of witnesses, not merely suspicion. (Ps. 33:5) This, of course, was stated as regards applying the death penalty, not as regards a divorce action.
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    Pay Attention To Yourselves and To All the Flock ("Secret" Elders Rule Book; 1991):

    Pages 107-108:

    The Judicial Committee

    Other cases of serious wrongdoing require special attention by the elders in order to determine what is needed to help the repentant wrongdoer and to preserve the spiritual health of all in the congregation.

    These include such sins as adultery, fornication, apostasy, and drunkenness. (See Unit 5 (a), pages 92-6.)

    Before forming a committee, elders determine if the accusation has substance.

    It must Scripturally be an offense serious enough to result in disfellowshipping.

    There must be either two witnesses or a confession of wrongdoing.

    Page 110:

    What kind of evidence is acceptable?

    There must be two or three eyewitnesses, not just persons repeating what they have heard; no action can be taken if there is only one witness. (Deut. 19:15;Jol1ll 8:17)

    Confession (admission of wrongdoing), either written or oral, may be accepted as conclusive proof without other corroborating evidence. (Josh. 7:19)

    Strong circumstantial evidence, such as pregnancy or evidence ([font color=red]testified to by at least two witnesses[/font]) that the accused stayed all night in the same house with a person of the opposite sex (or in the same house with a known homosexual) under improper circumstances, is acceptable.

    The testimony of youths may be considered; it is up to the elders to determine if the testimony has the ring of truth.

    The testimony of unbelievers may also be considered, but it must be carefully weighed.

    If there are two or three witnesses to the same kind of wrongdoing but each one is witness to a separate incident, their testimony can be considered.

    Such evidence may be used to establish guilt, but it is preferable to have two witnesses to the same occurrence of wrongdoing.

    Page 119:

    Is there sufficient evidence to establish by two witnesses or otherwise that the person is clearly guilty of serious wrongdoing?
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    The Watchtower August 15th 1997 Issue, Pages 27-28:

    Why Report What Is Bad?

    At least two witnesses are required to establish a charge of wrongdoing. (John 8:17; Hebrews 10:28) If the person denies the charge and your testimony is the only one, the matter will be left in Jehovah's hands. (1 Timothy 5:19, 24, 25) This is done in the knowledge that all things are openly exposed to Jehovah and that if the person is guilty, eventually his sins will catch up with him. Hebrews ; Numbers 32:23.

    But suppose the person does deny the charge and you are the only witness against him. Could you now be open to a countercharge of slander? No, not unless you have gossiped to those not involved in the matter. It is not slanderous to report conditions affecting a congregation to those having authority and responsibility to oversee and correct matters. It is, in fact, in line with our desire always to do what is correct and loyal. -Compare Luke 1:74, 75
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    The following is a Letter written from the Watchtower Service Department regarding the molestation of the step-daughter of Daniel Fitzwater. In the Dateline Program Daniel Fitzwater was shown by correspondence from a Circuit Overseer to have molested 17 JW Children who unfortunately did not have two eye-witnesses for each incident.

    Thus Brother Fitzwater went to prision and remains in prision as a JW in "good standing".
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    WATCHTOWER
    BIBLE AND TRACT SOCIETY OF NEW YORK, INC.
    COLUMBIA HEIGHTS. BROOKLYN, NEW YORK 11201-2483, U.S.A.
    PHONE (718) 625-3600
    SDS:SSP September 25, 1999

    Dear Brother,

    Please accept our apologies for the unusually long delay in responding to your letter dated May 7, 1999, in which you inquire about the situation involving your father, Daniel Fitzwater. We have given consideration to your questions and are pleased to make the following observations.

    We are pleased to note your statement that you believe in Jehovah. Your concern with how he views us, which you expressed, is most appropriate. In some situations humans are not able to establish a matter with accuracy, but we know that Jehovah sees all, We are given this assurance at Hebrews 4:13 where it says., "And there is not a creation that is not manifest to his sight, but all things are naked and openly exposed to the eyes of him with whom we have an accounting." This accounting with God is something that all of us, including your father, will have to make.

    As we are sure you realize, because of the need for maintaining confidentiality on matters of this nature, we cannot comment on the details of any specific case, including your father's. However, we are pleased to try to address some of your questions that deal with the general procedures in handling cases in which an individual is accused of wrongdoing. First, let us assure you that you are in error on the point you made in the third paragraph of your letter. The Society does feel that your concerns are important to us, and we have given very careful attention to what you have written.

    We noted in the penultimate paragraph of your letter you say-, "The fact that I personally know of none of the allegations first hand does not diminish the fact that in my opinion, I believe my father molested my stepsister Dawn." We certainly appreciate that your belief in this matter is sincere and very strong. Nevertheless, in following Scriptural procedures, the congregation can only take judicial action on the eyewitness evidence of two or more individuals, or confession. So, while we may have some strong convictions on a certain situation, without this Scriptural evidence the elders are not able to take judicial action. This in no way implies that they do not believe the one bringing them the information, but as you said in your letter it is how Jehovah sees things that is important. Since this is God's direction to those examining cases of wrongdoing, the elders must abide by the Scriptures. -Deuteronomy 17:6; 19:15; 1 Timothy 5:19.

    Some matters are firmly established by sufficient evidence or by confession, or both. However, what is the situation when an individual in these cases appears to the elders handling matters to be demonstrating heartfelt repentance? In that case the elders would reprove such a man, as Titus said "with severity". (Titus 1:13) The decision to reprove or disfellowship, the individual is left in the hands of the elders of each congregation. It is up to them to weigh all the accusations, and all claims of repentance. In the case of Titus, you will notice the reason that the apostle Paul left him in Crete: "That you might make appointments of older men in city after city, as I gave you orders." (Titus 1:5) These older men had a responsibility to handle matters in the congregation, in the same way as the "older men" in ancient Israel would have cared for matters of this nature.

    So, Brother Fitzwater, while we realize that we are dealing with imperfect men, we can have confidence that Jehovah is watching all things. If by cunning or pretense someone is able to fool men, even men appointed in the congregation, they could not fool Jehovah. In the final analysis it is to him that we all have an accounting. As the apostle Paul said at Romans 14: 1012: "We will all stand before the judgment seat of God."

    As you pray for strength from Jehovah to endure in this very trying "time of the end", please act in harmony with your prayers. Do not neglect your spiritual health by missing meetings, or neglecting your personal study and Bible reading. Be assured that all of us are deeply concerned for your spiritual well-being, and more importantly that Jehovah cares for you.

    With this letter, please accept a warm expression of Christian love and best wishes.

    Your brothers,

    Watchtower Bible and Tract Society
    OF NEW YORK INC.
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    Louisville Courier-Journal (Kentucky) Newspaper - January 4th 2001:

    Moreno said that eventually, the truth comes out. "Somebody else comes out of the woodwork and now you can take action," he said. Moreno said two separate accusers would count as two witnesses when making a sexual abuse accusation.
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    Associated Press (AP) News - February 11th 2001:

    Brown said the faith does require at least two witnesses to prove any kind of wrongdoing -- including child molestation -- because that is what is taught in the Bible. But corroborating evidence can be used instead of a second witness to prove wrongdoing, Brown said.
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    J.R. BROWN

    Director, Public Affairs Office

    Jehovah's Witnesses

    Associated Press (AP) News

    Tuesday, January 22, 2002

    Lawsuit claims Jehovah's Witness church protects pedophiles

    The church - which has about 6 million members worldwide, including 1 million in the United States - requires two witnesses because the Bible requires it for establishing a sin, he said.
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    The Seattle Times Newspaper - January 23rd 2002:

    Brown said the church which has about 6 million members worldwide, including 1 million in the United States requires two witnesses because the Bible requires that for establishing a sin.
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    SACRAMENTO BEE

    Saturday, January 26, 2002

    Woman sues Jehovah's Witnesses in sex abuse

    "The two-witnesses requirement applies to how we handle transgressions or sins as a church," Brown said. "It has nothing to do with how we handle a crime.
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    Jehovah's Witnesses Office of Public Information

    Jehovah's Witnesses and Child Protection

    (This is the Official Child Abuse Policy Statement on the Official Watchtower Media Website at http://www.jw-media.org)

    When any one of Jehovah's Witnesses is accused of an act of child abuse, the local congregation elders are expected to investigate. Two elders meet separately with the accused and the accuser to see what each says on the matter. If the accused denies the charge, the two elders may arrange for him and the victim to restate their position in each other's presence, with elders also there. If during that meeting the accused still denies the charges and there are no others who can substantiate them, the elders cannot take action within the congregation at that time. Why not? As a Bible-based organization, we must adhere to what the Scriptures say, namely, "No single witness should rise up against a man respecting any error or any sin . . . At the mouth of two witnesses or at the mouth of three witnesses the matter should stand good." (Deuteronomy 19:15) Jesus reaffirmed this principle as recorded at Matthew 18:15-17. However, if two persons are witnesses to separate incidents of the same kind of wrongdoing, their testimony may be deemed sufficient to take action.
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    The Guardian U.K. Newspaper - June 10th 2002:

    "However, we must bear in mind the Bible's clear direction: 'No single witness should rise up against a man respecting any error or any sin. At the mouth of two witnesses or at the mouth of three witnesses the matter should stand good (Deuteronomy )."
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    Pioneer Press News - July 2nd 2002:

    Two file sex abuse suit against Jehovah's Witnesses congregation

    BY STEPHEN SCOTT, Religion Editor

    Two women filed a civil suit Tuesday alleging they were sexually abused as young girls by a fellow member of a Jehovah's Witnesses congregation in Annandale, Minn.

    The women, both now 22 and living in the Twin Cities, say the religion's very tenets make it virtually impossible for victims to come forward, because at least two witnesses are required to corroborate any act of wrongdoing.

    After these incidents, said the plaintiffs attorney, Jeffrey Anderson of St. Paul, these women went to the elders, and they were told, 'We don't really believe you, because we require two witnesses to this for it to have happened, and if there aren't two, you are giving false testimony.'

    At issue is Jehovah's Witnesses understanding of the Bible, specifically Deuteronomy 19:15, which says a single witness shall not suffice in convicting a person of a crime or wrongdoing.

    Although Jehovahs Witnesses do not interpret every passage of the Bible literally, they base their beliefs solely on principles found in the Bible.

    If the accused denies the charges and there are no others who can substantiate them, the elders cannot take action within the congregation at that time, says the groups official statement called Jehovahs Witnesses and Child Protection.

    Both plaintiffs allege that while they were between 10 and 12 years old, they were fondled by a male member of the congregation who was eight years older.
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    BBC Panorama News Story on their Website - Friday, July 12th 2002:

    Child abuse policy

    Panorama investigates the Jehovah's Witnesses policy on child abuse

    First, if any allegation is made against someone, that person must confess or there must be two witnesses to the act for it to be proven:

    "No single witness should rise up against a man respecting any error or any sin... At the mouth of two witnesses or at the mouth of three witnesses the matter should stand good." (Deuteronomy 19:15)
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    The Following Statement by J.R. Brown was Faxed to Betsan Powys (BBC Panorama Reporter) on May 9th 2002, and was Posted on the Official Watchtower Society Media Website at http://www.jw-media.org right around the same time the BBC Panorama Program aired:

    May 9, 2002

    Betsan Powys

    BBC Panorama

    In the United States, when any one of Jehovahs Witnesses is accused of an act of child abuse, the local elders are expected to investigate. The procedure is as follows. Two elders meet separately with the accused and the accuser to see what each says on the matter. If the accused denies the charge, the two elders may arrange for him to have the opportunity to confront the accuser in their presence. If during that meeting the accused still denies the charges and there are no others who can substantiate them, the elders cannot take action within the congregation at that time. Why not? As a Bible-based organization, we must adhere to what the Scriptures say, namely, "No single witness should rise up against a man respecting any error or any sin . . . at the mouth of two witnesses or at the mouth of three witnesses the matter should stand good." (Deuteronomy 19:15) Jesus reaffirmed this principle as recorded at Matthew 18:15-17.
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    The Paducah Sun Newspaper - July 25th 2002:

    Bowen observes hearing from afar

    The former Jehovah's Witness elder observed three elders enter Kingdom Hall. He said his request for another date was never answered.

    By Matt Sanders, [email protected] -- 270.575.8650

    I saw three elders walk in, but there were no witnesses, Bowen said. For any allegation of wrongdoing to be established within the church, there have to be at least two witnesses. Who serves as their witnesses, the three judges? I am not going in there when they have no witnesses and my witnesses are not here. There is no justification. This is not fair, its not impartial, its just a kangaroo court.
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    NEW YORK TIMES Newspaper - Sunday, August 11th 2002 Edition:

    Ousted Members Contend Jehovah's Witnesses' Abuse Policy Hides Offenses

    By LAURIE GOODSTEIN

    If the accused denies the allegation, the victim's testimony alone is not sufficient unless there is at least one other witness to the act. The church says its policy is based on a scriptural injunction in Deuteronomy 19:15 that says two or three witnesses are necessary to prove a man has sinned.

    "They told me if I spoke about it with anybody, I needed to be careful because I could face a judicial committee for gossip or slander," she said. "If they felt I had committed that sin, I would be disfellowshiped."

    "They said we shouldn't hold ill feelings about our brothers," Ms. Long said. "Since there weren't two eyewitnesses, they said there wasn't much they could do."
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    St. Petersburg Times Newspaper, Published August 22nd 2002:

    Spiritual shunning

    By SHARON TUBBS, Times Staff Writer

    Brown, the Witnesses' spokesman, would not discuss specific cases, but he scoffed at allegations that Witnesses protect child molesters. Yes, Witnesses believe in the two-witness rule, he said, but that's not the only way wrongdoers can be caught.

    "It cannot be said that we will do nothing unless there are two witnesses," Brown said. He said Witnesses are not required to report crimes to elders before calling civil authorities. Victims and their families are free to call police at will, he said, although some don't choose to.
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    The Toronto Sun Newspaper - September 1st 2002:

    Storm in the hall -- Jehovah's Witnesses deny secrecy in dealing with family sexual abusers

    By Brodie Fenlon -- Toronto Sun

    If the accused denies the abuse happened, the charge is dropped unless another witness can corroborate the story.

    That rule is based on the Biblical book of Deuteronomy: "No single witness should rise up against a man respecting any error or any sin."

    In effect, the child's accusation is dismissed unless another person saw the abuse or another child comes forward with an allegation against the same church member.

    "We are bound by the scriptures," Thomas said. "But we would still report it to the authorities with only one witness" so the victim gets "the protection of the secular authorities."

    But abuse is seldom reported in jurisdictions where there is no mandatory reporting requirement, Bowen said.

    Family members and the victim are also forbidden from talking about abuse to other congregation members.

    Thomas said elders must protect the privacy of an accused, especially if he has repented, but are instructed to carefully monitor him and prevent him from being alone with kids.

    Bowen, who was excommunicated last month after being found guilty of "causing divisions," decried the process, noting the cloak of secrecy allows pedophiles to go door to door "witnessing" without anyone but the elders in the know. The requirement of two witnesses is ridiculous in cases of sex abuse, he said. And though elders may be well-meaning, they aren't trained to question or handle victims, he said.
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    An Unlikely David: Barbara Anderson's struggle to stop predatory pedophiles in the cloistered world of Jehovah's Witnesses

    September 3rd 2002:

    By Michael Morris

    The original article can be found here: http://www.toasted-cheese.com/ezine/2-3/morris.htm

    So, the investigation of the alleged abuse and the deciding who is guilty or not guilty, falls on the local elders. The burden of proof, barring a confession, is that there must be two members of the faith who can serve as eyewitnesses to the crime, no matter what the infraction. Otherwise, the accused is exonerated and the abused is admonished to treat the accused as innocent in God's eyes and not to repeat the charge to anyone else - even other potential victims, like younger siblings -- or face expulsion from the congregation and shunning by fellow members, including friends and family. Needless to say, child molesters don't usually seek an audience. So the cycle of abuse continues, while the victim, who summoned the monumental courage to come forward, is now forced back into silence by their spiritual leaders.
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    Transcript of Australian News Channel 9 Sunday Television Program "Silent Witnesses" - September 22nd 2002:

    REPORTER: So secret is child abuse that Simon Thomas thought he was alone in being abused by Robert Souter, until he found out about his younger brother and then later, about another brother as well. Did you have any sense of guilt that you might have been able to save your two brothers?

    SIMON THOMAS: I did, from then on, and I still have that feeling. And it's part of the reason why I'm doing what I'm doing today. Because if I'd said something back then, I could have saved - I could have helped, maybe in some way, dozens of others.

    REPORTER: But maybe not. For in the most extraordinary dictate of all, the Jehovah's Witnesses rulebook insists on this - "There must be two or three eyewitnesses, not just persons repeating what they have heard. No action can be taken if there is only one witness."

    REPORTER: Blind Freddy knows that a child abuser doesn't sit around waiting for two or three witnesses before doing anything.

    JIM DONALD: That's correct.

    REPORTER: How is it that this escapes the elders of the church?

    JIM DONALD: They rely on a biblical text which says that all matters are to be established on the mouth of two or three witnesses.

    REPORTER: As Jim Donald tells it, this rule has stifled the plaintive cries of victims time and time again and was a major factor in his decision to leave the church behind for good.

    JIM DONALD: A young lass made allegations that this particular individual had interfered with her sexual organs. Yeah.

    REPORTER: And you were given the job of investigating...

    JIM DONALD: Yes.

    REPORTER: ..this allegation? What happened?

    JIM DONALD: Well, all we could do is pose the questions.

    REPORTER: To him?

    JIM DONALD: To him, and obviously he said, "Oh, no, no, that's all a mistake and she's had problems. And you know, she comes from a weird family," sort of thing.

    REPORTER: So in the absence of the church's rule that there be at least two or three witnesses, this girl was not to be believed?

    JIM DONALD: [font color=red]That's right.

    REPORTER: And that was the end of the matter?

    JIM DONALD: Yep.

    REPORTER: But for her father's confession, that's just what would have happened to Natalie Webb. If he'd denied it and it was only your word against him, because of the two witness rule, nothing would have happened. Is that fair to assume?

    NATALIE WEBB: That's correct.
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    Mid-Valley Sunday - October 6th 2002:

    Suit Targets Jehovahs Witnesses

    Benton complaint about sex abuse and church policy is said to be the first of hundreds across the U.S.

    10-6-02

    BY JENNUFER ROUSE

    MID-VALLEY SUNDAY

    Brown, the Witness spokesman, said that while the church does require two witnesses or other compelling evidence before meting out any church discipline, that's beside the point because that requirement deals only with internal church procedures. He said the church does not forbid members from reporting crimes to the police.
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    I thought I would add a few Scriptures here which show that even under the Mosaic Law (which Christians are not even under any more), when a Rape happened in a field, and no witnesses were around, the Rapist would be stoned at the mouth of ONE WITNESS -- The Victim!

    Deuteronomy 22:25: If an engaged woman is raped out in the country, only the man will be put to death.
    Deuteronomy 22:26: Do not punish the woman at all; she has done nothing wrong, and certainly nothing deserving death. This crime is like murder,
    Deuteronomy 22:27: because the woman was alone out in the country when the man attacked her. She screamed, but there was no one to help her.

    And yet, the Watchtower Society has a VERY RIGID TWO-WITNESS POLICY for CHILD RAPE!

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  • Joyzabel
    Joyzabel

    WOW UnDisfellowshipped, great compulation of all the quotes.

    Thank you for your hard work.

    Hugs,

    j2bf

  • Brummie
    Brummie

    Thanks for the research, much appreciated!

    Brummie (taking notes)

  • jack2
    jack2

    Thanks for the good research Undisfellowshipped.

  • JosephMalik
    JosephMalik

    Well Jack here is the rest of the story on the two witnesses.

    The two witness rule vs criminal law.

    The Watchtower publicly claims, "We cannot go beyond the things that are written in the scriptures" and yet goes beyond the things that are written in the scriptures all the time. They just do not want any of you to notice. And it pertains to criminal matters in which the civil authorities not the church have jurisdiction and in such cases where the two witness rule does not apply. In fact such civil authorities are allowed to exist for this very purpose to deal with such crimes and as such they serve the interests of Christ. One of the things written that they go beyond is this:

    Colossians 1:15-17 15 NWT He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation; 16 because by means of him all [other] things were created in the heavens and upon the earth, the things visible and the things invisible, no matter whether they are thrones or lordships or governments or authorities. All [other] things have been created through him and for him. 17 Also, he is before all [other] things and by means of him all [other] things were made to exist,

    All Governments, good or bad were created by Him and for Him to maintain order until His Kingdom is established here in their place. The scriptures clearly state: by means of him all [other] things were created in the heavens ( rulers with authority ) and upon the earth, (common man under their control) the things visible (local and near) and the things invisible, (remote and far away as in Rome) no matter whether they are thrones or lordships or governments or authorities. All [other] things have been created through him and for him. Also, he is before all [other] things and by means of him all [other] things were made to exist. Everything described here is earthly and human and since such heavens belong to the Christ, avoiding them and their jurisdiction is unscriptural. Such authority also governs the Church that exists along with such heavens and earth over which Christ is also head. The Watchtower has distorted such texts and their meaning and seek to avoid this clear scriptural command by diverting attention away from it. Another text that they go beyond is this:

    Romans 13:1-6 NWT 1 Let every soul be in subjection to the superior authorities, for there is no authority except by God; the existing authorities stand placed in their relative positions by God. 2 Therefore he who opposes the authority has taken a stand against the arrangement of God; those who have taken a stand against it will receive judgment to themselves. 3 For those ruling are an object of fear, not to the good deed, but to the bad. Do you, then, want to have no fear of the authority? Keep doing good, and you will have praise from it; 4 for it is Gods minister to you for your good. But if you are doing what is bad, be in fear: for it is not without purpose that it bears the sword; for it is Gods minister, an avenger to express wrath upon the one practicing what is bad. 5 There is therefore compelling reason for YOU people to be in subjection, not only on account of that wrath but also on account of [ YOUR ] conscience. 6 For that is why YOU are also paying taxes; for they are Gods public servants constantly serving this very purpose.

    A scriptural rule that no slave or soul in the faith is authorized to avoid and one that Paul welcomed in his behalf. And such jurisdiction pertains not only to civil matters but matters of faith notably matters in which human life was in jeopardy. Some background here may be helpful.

    Paul was accused of apostasy by James and the congregation in Jerusalem for not keeping the Law and they made it clear to him that their letter regarding blood and fornication (Acts 21:25) that released them from keeping the Law was for Gentiles only and did not apply to Jews such as Paul. This resulted in a chain of events that nearly took his life.

    Acts 21:20-25 NWT 20 After hearing this they began to glorify God, and they said to him: You behold, brother, how many thousands of believers there are among the Jews; and they are all zealous for the Law. 21 But they have heard it rumored about you that you have been teaching all the Jews among the nations an apostasy from Moses, telling them neither to circumcise their children nor to walk in the [solemn] customs. 22 What, then, is to be done about it? In any case they are going to hear you have arrived. 23 Therefore do this which we tell you: We have four men with a vow upon themselves. 24 Take these men along and cleanse yourself ceremonially with them and take care of their expenses, that they may have their heads shaved. And so everybody will know that there is nothing to the rumors they were told about you, but that you are walking orderly, you yourself also keeping the Law. 25 As for the believers from among the nations, we have sent out, rendering our decision that they should keep themselves from what is sacrificed to idols as well as from blood and what is strangled and from fornication.

    No further meetings, no two or three witnesses to decide the truth of the matter as required by their own Law, no nothing like that just instructions on how Paul must redeem himself and prove to them all that such rumors were not true. James and such Jews were wrong and Paul needed time to reason with them so he complied. But the actions that followed quickly escalated requiring intervention by Roman guards to save Pauls life until finally he was brought before Festus where he said in his defense:

    Acts 25:8-11 NWT 8 But Paul said in defense: Neither against the Law of the Jews nor against the temple nor against Caesar have I committed any sin. 9 Festus, desiring to gain favor with the Jews, said in reply to Paul: Do you wish to go up to Jerusalem and be judged there before me concerning these things? 10 But Paul said: I am standing before the judgment seat of Caesar, where I ought to be judged. I have done no wrong to the Jews, as you also are finding out quite well. 11 If, on the one hand, I am really a wrongdoer and have committed anything deserving of death, I do not beg off from dying; if, on the other hand, none of those things exists of which these [men] accuse me, no man can hand me over to them as a favor. I appeal to Caesar!

    The charges involved violations against the law of the Jews and the temple (matters of faith) and trumped up charges against Caesar. Paul did not advocate using a two witness rule to settle such matters in his behalf. It was not their place to judge him for he said: no man can hand me over to them as a favor. What Paul did was to request that such charges against his faith and against Caesar be handled by Caesars judgment seat where such things should be judged.

    Acts 25:10 NWT But Paul said: I am standing before the judgment seat of Caesar, where I ought to be judged.

    All such charges were a threat to his life. But by not making proper application of such texts and shifting attention away to verses that do not have jurisdiction over such matters, the Watchtower has gotten away with the most vile criminal acts imaginable.

    Verses in Deut as part of the Law no longer apply today as we are not under such law, but notice a verse apart from such Law that only requires one witness, the victim and says:

    Matthew 18:15 NWT Moreover, if your brother commits a sin, go lay bare his fault between you and him alone (a sin or a personal sin in some versions not a violation of civil law) . If he listens to you, you have gained your brother.

    NIVUS translates like this: 15 "If your brother sins against you, {15 Some manuscripts do not have <against you.>} go and show him his fault, just between the two of you. If he listens to you, you have won your brother over.

    It the victim is willing to forgive and the abuser repentant then no further action is required. This is not true of criminal cases. In such cases only the courts can determine probation or punishment for the crime. The victim must of course report the crime to someone else for it to be even known. Keeping it secret will only cause such abuse to continue. But once revealed such ones would assist the victim.

    Matthew 18:16 NWT But if he does not listen, take along with you one or two more, in order that at the mouth of two or three witnesses every matter may be established.

    So according to our Lord, only the testimony of the victim and the revelation of the sin is required to institute such proceedings, not two witnesses as the Watchtower teaches. Such witnesses would act in the victims behalf, not the criminals behalf. On such non-criminal matters we have:

    Matthew 18:17 NWT If he does not listen to them, speak to the congregation. If he does not listen even to the congregation, let him be to you just as a man of the nations and as a tax collector.

    While this is good counsel to follow it would never get to this level if it were a criminal matter. This only applies to sin that involves the faith and brotherhood where the church still holds jurisdiction not criminal matters.

    And our Lords words clearly show that only one witness the actual victim is required to start proceedings. This commandment does not supercede the law of the land in which such a trespass occurred. In the USA and most countries such a victim can and should report the crime of child abuse to authorities as required by civil law. And anyone to which the victim appealed should do the same. The civil authorities should make all determinations as to its validity and the congregation would not be involved. This is the victims right and obligation and the one or two witness rule does not apply to specific crimes such as child abuse. Regarding other matters in which civil law is not involved, the council offered is quite proper and should be followed in our times as our Lord explained.

    Other scriptures abused and misapplied by the Watchtower are found in Pauls letter to the Corinthians.

    1 Corinthians 5:9 11 NWT 9 In my letter I wrote YOU to quit mixing in company with fornicators, 10 not [meaning] entirely with the fornicators of this world or the greedy persons and extortioners or idolaters. Otherwise, YOU would actually have to get out of the world. 11 But now I am writing YOU to quit mixing in company with anyone called a brother that is a fornicator or a greedy person or an idolater or a reviler or a drunkard or an extortioner, not even eating with such a man.

    Makes perfect sense. We often do this quite naturally in fact. We should avoid those with such bad conduct but we would also know why. We would be fully informed and not kept in the dark as to what such conduct was among those professing the faith.

    1 Corinthians 5:12 13 NWT 12 For what do I have to do with judging those outside? Do YOU not judge those inside, 13 while God judges those outside? Remove the wicked [man] from among yourselves.

    We cannot do this with everyone of course but then we would not be that close with just anyone in the world. We are not told to treat them badly and never speak to them however. They simply would no longer share the intimate company they once had with us.

    Yet even with such clear instruction the Corinthians went too far in administering this rule and had to be corrected in Pauls next letter to them. Only over matters of faith and very trivial mattes does Paul teach:

    1 Corinthians 6:1-6 NWT 1 Does anyone of YOU that has a case against the other dare to go to court before unrighteous men, and not before the holy ones? 2 Or do YOU not know that the holy ones will judge the world? And if the world is to be judged by YOU , are YOU unfit to try very trivial matters? 3 Do YOU not know that we shall judge angels? Why, then, not matters of this life? 4 If, then, YOU do have matters of this life to be tried, is it the men looked down upon in the congregation that YOU put in as judges? 5 I am speaking to move YOU to shame. Is it true that there is not one wise man among YOU that will be able to judge between his brothers, 6 but brother goes to court with brother, and that before unbelievers?

    A matter against a brother would not involve violations of civil law. And very trivial matters that do not involve violations of civil law should be handled privately within the body of believers since this will be their function in the promised kingdom. Their judgment of angels another word for messengers of God which the Jews were for thousands of years highlights how this responsibility will be used then.

    1 Corinthians 6:711 NWT 7 Really, then, it means altogether a defeat for YOU that YOU are having lawsuits with one another. Why do YOU not rather let yourselves be wronged? Why do YOU not rather let yourselves be defrauded? 8 To the contrary, YOU wrong and defraud, and YOUR brothers at that. 9 What! Do YOU not know that unrighteous persons will not inherit Gods kingdom? Do not be misled. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men kept for unnatural purposes, nor men who lie with men, 10 nor thieves, nor greedy persons, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit Gods kingdom. 11 And yet that is what some of YOU were. But YOU have been washed clean, but YOU have been sanctified, but YOU have been declared righteous in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ and with the spirit of our God.

    The verses deal with fraud that is not of a severe nature. Because Paul does not presume that they still are fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men kept for unnatural purposes, nor men who lie with men, nor thieves, nor greedy persons, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners , for that is what some of them were, but no longer. So such counsel does not apply in severe cases of wrongdoing where civil law must be applied.

    Paul understood how civil law and the faith should interact and explained it all in detail in his writings. It is up to us to apply all this to our lives.

    In matters of faith and morals such as the Corinthians abuse of the emblems during our Lords evening meal over which there was much debate or their superfine apostles challenge to Pauls authority Paul said:

    2 Corinthians 12:20 21 NWT 20 For I am afraid that somehow, when I arrive, I may find YOU not as I could wish and I may prove to be to YOU not as YOU could wish, but, instead, there should somehow be strife, jealousy, cases of anger, contentions, backbitings, whisperings, cases of being puffed up, disorders. 21 Perhaps, when I come again, my God might humiliate me among YOU , and I might mourn over many of those who formerly sinned but have not repented over their uncleanness and fornication and loose conduct that they have practiced.

    In such matters the two or three witness rule applied and would be enough determine who the extremists and/or sinners were.

    2 Corinthians 13:1 NWT 1 This is the third time I am coming to YOU . At the mouth of two witnesses or of three every matter must be established.

    And Timothy who was appointed by Paul to serve in his behalf and appoint Elders and servants and who was also given clear instructions as who to select and who to avoid was told:

    1 Timothy 5:17-21 NWT 17 Let the older men who preside in a fine way be reckoned worthy of double honor, especially those who work hard in speaking and teaching. 18 For the scripture says: You must not muzzle a bull when it threshes out the grain; also: The workman is worthy of his wages. 19 Do not admit an accusation against an older man, except only on the evidence of two or three witnesses. 20 Reprove before all onlookers persons who practice sin, that the rest also may have fear. 21 I solemnly charge you before God and Christ Jesus and the chosen angels to keep these things without prejudgment, doing nothing according to a biased leaning.

    Or as NIVUS translates in part : 19 Do not entertain an accusation against an elder unless it is brought by two or three witnesses. 20 Those who sin are to be rebuked publicly, so that the others may take warning.

    Notice how such comments in the NWT that are directed against elders that practice sin are deflected to the congregation instead. They would be disliked by those that Timothy passed up so accusations against them was anticipated. But those that did not rule well and sinned would be rebuked before all so such elders were not spared public rebuke right there on the spot after the testimony of such witnesses proved true and Pauls consent was not required to administer it. They were considered chosen angels but they were not free to do as they pleased nor were they above rebuke if they demonstrated a biased leaning.

    Violations of Civil law are another matter and in such cases it is not the two witness rule but the rules stated in Colossians and Romans discussed earlier that govern the faith.

    Joseph

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