Nov 12 is also my husband's birthday, so much for horoscopes.
I share my birthday with many of the Green Bay Packers. I don't think our horoscopes jive either.
Target
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Nov 12 is also my husband's birthday, so much for horoscopes.
I share my birthday with many of the Green Bay Packers. I don't think our horoscopes jive either.
Target
Target, when I see who I share my birthday with, I definitely don't worry about horoscopes.
Not doing as well as the Packers, eh?
Blondie (who thinks the Packers haven't played any of the good teams yet and will be surprised)
So, how old is manson?
SS
Oh yay, the psycho is another year older and uglier.
In honor of this event here are the lyrics to Helter Skelter:
When I get to the bottom I go back to the top of the slide
Where I stop and I turn and I go for a ride
Till I get to the bottom and I see you again.
Do you, don't you want me to love you
I'm coming down fast but I'm miles above you
Tell me tell me tell me come on tell me the answer
You may be a lover but you ain't no dancer.
Helter skelter helter skelter
Helter skelter.
Will you, won't you want me to make you
I'm coming down fast but don't let me break you
Tell me tell me tell me the answer
You may be a lover but you ain't no dancer.
Look out helter skelter helter skelter
Helter skelter
Look out, cause here she comes.
When I get to the bottom I go back to the top of the slide
And I stop and I turn and I go for a ride
And I get to the bottom and I see you again
Well do you, don't you want me to make you
I'm coming down fast but don't let me break you
Tell me tell me tell me the answer
You may be a lover but you ain't no dancer.
Look out helter skelter helter skelter
Helter skelter
Look out helter skelter
She's coming down fast
Yes she is
Yes she is.
Makes you wonder how he got the idea that the Beatles were telling him to kill all those people. Too much acid will rot your brain.
Robyn
Charlie is 66 years old now. It is interesting to see what a miserable life he had and how strict religion didn't help any. He didn't have strong character to start with and then to have the miserable upbringing he did, he was doomed to turn out bad. The Tate/LaBianca murders were in 1969 so he has been in prison for over 30 years now and will never be out.
Charlie
Just who was this Charlie anyway? Both LAPD and the Los Angeles Sheriffs Office started to dig through the rubble of his heavily documented 36 years. As information came in about him, it was no surprise that he was in trouble. If ever a kid had a miserable start in life Charles Manson was it.
An illegitimate and unplanned child, he was born in Cincinnati, Ohio, November 12, 1934 to Kathleen Maddox, a promiscuous sixteen-year-old who drank too much and got into a lot of trouble. Two years later, Kathleen filed suit against Colonel Scott of Ashland, KY, for child support which she was awarded, but never received. Kathleen was briefly married to William Manson who gave his name to the boy.
Charles Manson in Nuel Emmons book Manson in His Own Words describes the Maddox family:
Kathleen was the youngest of three children from the marriage of Nancy and Charles Maddox. Her parents loved her and meant well by her, but they were fanatical in their religious beliefs. Especially Grandma, who dominated the household. She was stern and unwavering in her interpretation of Gods Will, and demanded that those within her home abide by her view of Gods wishes.
My grandfather worked for the B&O Railroad. He worked long hard hours, a dedicated slave to the company and his bossesHe was not the disciplinarian Grandma wasIf he tried to comfort Mom with a display of affection, such as a pat on the knee or an arm around her shoulder, Grandma was quick to insinuate he was vulgar.
For Mom, life was filled with a never-ending list of denials. From awakening in the morning until going to bed at night it was, "No Kathleen, that dress is too short. Braid your hair, dont comb it like some hussy. Come directly home from school, dont let me catch you talking to any boys. No, you cant go to the school dance, we are going to churchIn 1933, at age fifteen, my mother ran away from home.
Other writers have portrayed Mom as a teenage whore...In her search for acceptance she may have fallen in love too easily and too often, but a whore at that time? No!In later years, because of hard knocks and tough times, she may have sold her body some
Charlie never knew his father and never had a real father figure. His mother was the kind that children are taken away from and placed in foster homes. Kathleen had a habit of disappearing for day and weeks at a time, leaving Charlie with his grandmother or his aunt. When Kathleen and her brother were both sentenced to the penitentiary for armed robbery, Charlie got sent off to live with his aunt and uncle in McMechen, West Virginia. The aunt was very religious and strict in stark contrast to his mothers permissiveness.
When Kathleen was released from jail, she was not responsible enough to take care of him, preferring her life of promiscuity and hard drinking to any kind of normal lifestyle. There was no continuity in his life: he was always being foisted on someone new; he moved from one dingy rooming house to another; there were only transitory friendships that he made on the streets.
Manson tells the story which was circulated within his family: "Mom was in a caf one afternoon with me on her lap. The waitress, a would-be mother without a child of her own, jokingly told my Mom shed buy me from her. Mom replied, A pitcher of beer and hes yours. The waitress set up the beer, Mom stuck around long enough to finish it off and left the place without me. Several days later my uncle had to search the town for the waitress and take me home."
Taget
Blondie:
LOL! Doing as good as the Packers? I sure don't have the income those guys do.
Born and raised in Wisconsin, now in Arizona, yes I am a Packer fan. Even my dog, Rocky dons his Packer scarf for the games. If Brett Favre can keep from getting injured, they might go all the way this year. You are right, though, they haven't dealt with some of the good teams yet.
I am Blonde also. So is my dog.
Target