Presuppostitionalism and Baptism

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  • clash_city_rockers
    clash_city_rockers

    I have been trying to think of how far presuppostitional argumentation
    can be applied and I have come to a conclusion: The further a theology
    is from true Reformed Christianity the more the presuppositional
    method can be applied. Thus presuppositionalism in its fullest can be
    applied to anti-theism, but perhaps only certain aspects of it can be
    applied to Romanism (but not as much as to anti-theism), and even
    some aspects of it can be applied to the Baptist's doctrine of the
    sacrament of baptism (not as much as Romanism for baptists are not
    suppressing the truth in unrighteousness as found in Romans 1).
    However, because WE ALL have presuppositions we start our argument
    with the Baptist (or Lutheran etc.) by first dealing with the
    presuppositions of the baptist (i.e. the requirement for an explicit
    command in the N.T.). Secondly, while the baptist is not necessarily
    suppressing the truth in unrighteousness as an unregenerate he may be
    suppressing the Biblical doctrine of baptism for other hidden
    motives; if he becomes convinced he'll lose his posh position in the
    Baptist Church, all his friends are Baptists, he has published books
    on the subject which he would then have to retract etc.

    So the procedure is as follows:

    (1) Acknowledge and address the presuppositions: (A) a false view of
    the regulative principle, (B) Discontinuity over continuity (cf. Matt.
    5:17; 2 Tim. 3:15-16) (C) If they are a dispensationalist their entire
    hermeneutic must be addressed.

    (2) Presume their world view, do an internal critique demonstrating
    the arbitrariness of their assertion of their misconception of the
    regulative principle (why do they worship on Sunday?) Show how their
    doctrine does not fit the facts of Scripture.

    (3) Correct misconceptions of the Reformed doctrine (this is half the
    battle!). Just as most J.W.s don't know or understand the doctrine of
    the Trinity and thus set up straw man arguments so too most baptists
    don't understand and thus set up straw man arguments. However, I
    think a lot of the misconceptions have been our fault when we use
    such terms as "Infant baptism" (as if we don't baptize adults or
    baptize babies just because they are babies). I think we can correct
    the false notions by using a term such as "Covenant household
    baptism."





    Grace and Peace in the Lord,
    jr

  • funkyderek
    funkyderek

    By definition, presuppositionalism can be applied equally to any belief system and is therefore utterly pointless.

  • JT
    JT
    true Reformed Christianity

    being that most of us come out of the jw where the phrase THE TRUTH was used day and night, could you define what "True Reformed Christianity"

    the reason i ask is because there are others who will not agree with you who consider themselves christians- why would christianity need to be reformed, what is it being reformed into?

  • clash_city_rockers
    clash_city_rockers

    JT,

    I would respectfully submit to you the doctrinal standards of the Westminster Confession of Faith (WCF)

    click here http://www.reformed.org/

    and go to historic church documents. and you will see the WCF it is a outline of doctrine of what the bible teaches.

    cheers,

    jr

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