Have you noticed how many Jehovah Witnesses are in their second and third marriage? Why is it that a religion that says it's morally pure, has so many people in their second and third marriage? Of course they say that there are no divorces in the Jehovah Witnesses, but that doesn't seem true. The only reasons that you can re marry in the "truth" is either your spouce dies, or if he/she commits fornication, and you don't forgive your spouce. Did you ever notice how some got divorced and re married again, and both stead in the truth? How many ways do you know of, that a Jehovah Witness can divorce, remarry and stay in the truth?
50 Ways to Leave your Lover
by JH 5 Replies latest jw friends
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Marcos
Interesting post.
Along these lines, I remember something that I had forgotten regarding JWs and marriage.
Sometime in the 80s i was re-united with one of my best friends from Bethel. He lived in Texas and I was in California at the time. He drove out to see me and another buddy once, out of the blue. He said to both of us, "You've got to come back to Texas with me and help me sort something out with my wife." Well, we were really good friends for a long time. He and his wife had originally invited me to come to Texas from Bethel to perform their wedding ceremony. Bethel wouldn't give me the time off.
He and his wife were both very happy to have my friend and I there. We actually were able to only act as referees while they decided on the best way to divorce. He had a girlfriend. She was 10 years younger and a "sister" in the cong where he was an elder.
So, he says to me (in front of his other buddy who was also an elder in the same cong), "I have never had sex with that woman." No, my memory is not bad. He actually said it. He then asks me, "Do you believe me?" He was my friend! I said, "Of course. If you say you didn't do it, I believe you." He immediately turns to his other elder friend and says, "Do you believe that? He actually BELIEVES me!" He did this right in front of my friend (the other guy from California) and me.
I just took it. He goes on talking and says, "You know what? I think the Society should let us have a swap meet every 10 years or so and on a given day have someone just say, 'SWAP!' And let the brothers and sisters just grab a new husband or wife. That way they wouldn't have to go to the trouble of df-ing everyone."
This is an elder talking, to another elder. Well, he does leave his wife, marries the other girl, gets df'd and gets reinstated. He went on to do so many mean and small-minded things to my buddy that eventually both of us leave and have never tried to contact him again. Just don't even want to know about him. The whole time, he, his friend and friend's wife are preaching to my buddy and I about how we should get back "in the troof" and save ourselves from God's Wrath!
His buddy, the other elder, eventually gets busted for dealing drugs and does a few years in Huntsville (prison). I also was told by this same guy (the new bridegroom) that he had been using drugs since I knew him in Bethel. But, I'm slated for destruction.
The WT's claim to being Spirit-directed is a load. "By their fruits you shall know them."
Marcos
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Valis
Fifty Ways To Leave Your Lover
- "The problem is all inside your head", she said to me
The answer is easy if you take it logically
I'd like to help you in your struggle to be free
There must be fifty ways to leave your loverShe said "it's really not my habit to intrude"
Furthermore I hope my meaning won't be lost or misconstrued
So I repeat myself, at the risk of being crude
There must be fifty ways to leave your lover, fifty ways to leave your loverJust slip out the back, Jack, make a new plan, Stan
Don't need to be coy, Roy, just listen to me
Hop on the bus, Gus, don't need to discuss much
Just drop off the key, Lee, and get yourself freeShe said "it grieves me so to see you in such pain"
I wish there was something I could do to make you smile again
I said, I appreciate that, but would you please explain about the fifty waysShe said, "why don't we both just sleep on it tonight"
And I believe, in the morning you'll begin to see the light
And then she kissed me and I realized she probably was right
There must be fifty ways to leave your lover, fifty ways to leave your loverJust slip out the back, Jack, make a new plan, Stan
Don't need to be coy, Roy, just listen to me
Hop on the bus, Gus, don't need to discuss much
Just drop off the key, Lee, and get yourself free- Paul Simon -
Sincerely, District Overbeer
"Still Crazy After All These Years", 1975 -
wednesday
knew a married sis , commited adultry with someone, it was kept very quiet, and she was only given private reproof, she and her husband then divorce and both remarry without any explantion to the cong. So both show up at different KH with new spouses and no one knows why they got divorced or what. But she is in 'the in crowd" so they all just let it slide and she even got a bridal shower-private one, but would have been a cong one had not someone complained.So both remain in good standing in the "truth". It really is who u are and who u know, not what u have done. if they want to get u out, any reason will do. If they like u, u can do anything and be accepted.
Edited by - wednesday on 9 January 2003 19:21:9
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freedom96
From what I have observed, I think there are many more divorces happening now than 20 years ago. When I grew up in the WTS, I only heard of one divorce ever, during my entire childhood. I could probably list 30 now. And that is only what I have managed to hear about since leaving. It could be twice that or more by now.
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Mum
wednesday, you are right! I learned, after I decided to take off the blinders, that the Watchtower organization operates like any other. In fact, there was a case in my old congregation of a sister remarrying her ex-husband when she had been married to someone else in between. Apparently, there is something in the Old Testament which prohibits this behavior, but I can no longer recall the scriptural references. Anyway, some of us were discussing -- well, gossiping about -- the situation in the car group one day. One of the older brothers stated very matter-of-factly, "Well, I know that if I had been the one who did it, they would've got [disfellowshipped] me." This was the first time I had ever heard a witness admit that behavior and attitude are not the criteria used for disfellowshipping. It almost started me to (shudder!) thinking!