Can you get DF'd for associating with DF'd ones?

by madison149 7 Replies latest jw friends

  • madison149
    madison149

    Maybe that's a stupid question. I always thought you could get disfellowshipped for associating with ones who are disfellowshipped. However, I seem to remember something in the "secret" elders manual (which my husband found in it's entirety online a couple of years ago, but which we haven't been able to find again) which said that a person would not get disfellowshipped for associating with a disfellowshipped family member. But that if the DF'd person was NOT a relative, then you could be disfellowshiped for associating with him/her. Can anyone set the record straight for me?

  • Lin
    Lin

    Yes, you can be df'd for associating with df'd ones.

  • auntiem
    auntiem

    Is this the page your looking for?

    Proper View of
    Disfellowshipped and Disassociated Persons

    If an individual is trying to influence others to take an
    unscriptural course or is trying to deceive others, all
    should avoid him; he is described at 2. John 9-11.

    Disfellowshipped and disassociated ones are shunned by
    those who wish to have a good relationship with Jeho-
    vah.

    Basic Scriptural counsel on the proper view of those who
    have been expelled from the congregation is set out in the
    apostle Paul's words at 1 Corinthians 5:11- 13.

    John counsels against speaking to or associating with a
    disfellowshipped or disassociated person so as not to be "a
    sharer in his wicked works." (2 John 11 )

    Scriptural and historical guidelines on how to view
    disfellowshipped and disassociated persons are found in
    The Watchtower, September 15, 1981, pages 20-31.

    We need to be especially cautious about contact with
    disfellowshipped persons who have apostatized and
    those who continue in their immoral conduct. (Titus 3:
    10, 11; 1. John 2:19)

    These can contaminate the congregation like gangrene.
    (2. Tim 2:16-18)

    The principle set forth in Jesus' words at Matthew 10:
    34-38 has a bearing on situations involving disfellow-
    shipped or disassociated relatives.

    Special and difficult problems may arise in relation to
    social gatherings.

    Loyal worshipers of Jehovah will want to adhere to the
    inspired counsel at I Corinthians 5:11.

    Normally, a close relative would not be disfellowshipped
    for associating with a disfellowshipped person unless there
    is spiritual association or an effort made to justify or
    excuse the wrongful course.

    UNIT 5 (a)

    103


  • Cygnus
    Cygnus

    Spring of 2000 I was disfellowshipped for unrepentantly associating with a disfellowshipped person. I even brought him to the Kingdom Hall judicial hearing with me.

  • Mum
    Mum

    Congratulations, Cygnus! You got on the wrong side of "Jehovah" by exercising your basic right to freedom of association. Watchtower policy reminds me of a phrase repeated over and over in Kurt Vonnegut's book, Breakfast of Champions when confronted with some bizarre reality: "Sometimes I wonder about the Creator of the universe."

    BTW, a few years ago on H2O, you let us in on an essay (for want of a better term) you wrote from a non-religious point of view, about the reasons why one would choose not to join a group such as the JW's. I would appreciate it if you would post that or e-mail it to me. I think that many here might find it useful. Thanks.

    Best regards,

    SandraC

  • cornish
    cornish

    Yes , When I was a Whitoe I was threatened with disfellowshiping if I had anything to do with a friend who had recently dissasociated.

  • LDH
    LDH

    Yes, I was DF'd a second time (in abstentia) for refusing to move out of the apartment my newly DA'd sister and I shared.

    I told the elders, "Do what cha gotta do. I'm going to."

    I never went back to that stupid ass hall. I was on my way out, anyway. That was in 95 or 96.

    Lisa

    Been DF'd TWICE!!! Class

  • madison149
    madison149

    thanks for your replies. and, thanks auntiem for your post--that was the one i was looking for!

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