by Marvin Shilmer 6 Replies latest jw friends
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Whose Organization?
If a religious organization disfellowships its members for criticizing or exposing teachings for what they are, whose organization is this indicative of according to the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society?
10 points--whatever thats worth--to the participant that can prove their answer.
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Marvin Shilmer
"It is not a form of religious persecution to say and to show that another religion is false, for an informed person to expose publicly a certain religion as being false, thus allowing persons to see the difference between false religion and true religion." (Watchtower 11/15/63, p 688)
*** w97 5/1 8 Identifying the Right Kind of Messenger ***
Identifying the Right Kind of Messenger
"I am . . . the One making the word of his servant come true, and the One that carries out completely the counsel of his own messengers."-ISAIAH 44:25, 26.
JEHOVAH GOD is the Grand Identifier of his true messengers. He identifies them by making the messages he delivers through them come true. Jehovah is also the Great Exposer of false messengers. How does he expose them? He frustrates their signs and predictions. In this way he shows that they are self-appointed prognosticators, whose messages really spring from their own false reasoning-yes, their foolish, fleshly thinking!
2 Both Isaiah and Ezekiel claimed to be messengers of Jehovah God. Were they? Let us see. Isaiah prophesied in Jerusalem from about 778 B.C.E. to sometime after 732 B.C.E. Ezekiel was exiled to Babylon in 617 B.C.E. He prophesied to his Jewish brothers there. Both prophets boldly announced that Jerusalem would be destroyed. Other prophets said that God would not let this happen. Who proved to be the right kind of messengers?
*** Rbi8 1 John 4:1 ***
4 Beloved ones, do not believe every inspired expression, but test the inspired expressions to see whether they originate with God, because many false prophets have gone forth into the world.*** Rbi8 1 John 4:6 ***
Hello, setfreefinally!
Nice quotes, but you do not answer the question and neither does your citations. You have 9 more attempts available--making up the rules as we go here.
Whose organization is it, according to the WTS?
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Marvin Shilmer
Can you say "Satan"?
Must be reffering to the Cartolics...The WT has a fascination with the Catholic church so my guess is the cartolic chuch
Hello, Kismet
Your answer was: Satan
Bingo!
Here is the WTS comment accordingly:
"Satans organization claims to be Gods organization, and persecutes those who are actually members of Gods organization. Satans organization sails under the high-sounding name of "Christendom". It boasts of a membership of over 500,000,000 persons. Its members are in bondage to creeds, customs, rites and ceremonies; they dare not disown these or criticize or expose them. To do so would bring down on their heads taunts, reproaches, disfellowship and persecution. Many thousands of the Lords people are held in these denominations as prisoners, afraid to express their disapproval of the creeds, methods and customs of the organization."-- MILLIONS OF PRISONERS TO HEAR THE GOSPEL, The Watch Tower journal of October 1, 1930 page 301.
Imagine that, according to the WTS a religious organization that disfellowships its members for criticizing or exposing teachings is indicative of Satan's organization. Now--I wonder--what organizations behave like this today?
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Marvin Shilmer
This is a quote and a thread that deserves to be bumped!!
Something that could definitely be of use!!!!
Thanks for posting that Marvin!
Kismet
