Is it More Difficult for Us?

vinman

It seems that as Ex Jw's, we have a harder time with TTATT then other religions. Is that just because we claim to only use the Bible unlike Mormons? Is it because they like no other religion keep claiming to be Jehovah's Organization? Is it the secrecy of GB? What is it?

SuziDrums

Regardless of the claims, other churches actually do use "the name." They just haven't tried to trademark it. Other religions actually do go door to door; they just aren't required to keep alive a religious publishing house. Other churches do claim to be the "only true religion." Most will send you to hell instead of condemn you to death at Armageddon, but they use the concept in the same way.

SuziDrums

What's really hard for us is that "they" were really inside our heads. The mind control is so pervasive. The police state so complete. Getting out is more than just recognizing ttatt and never going back. It's knowing that we could easily run into people who are programmed to spy on us, snitch on us or form a committee around us. It's knowing that we have utterly lost our entire paradigm of existence and have to rebuild from scratch. Decisions, decisions. Reading. Talking. Searching for comrades.

Those of us who weren't born in at least may have some inkling of what reality was like before we blinked and they got us. Those who have been multi-generational have much more work to do.

Main thing to remember: The Borg is a burning building. The first decision is simply to get out alive. Then you can figure out where to go and what to do when you get away from all the filthy atmosphere.

DesirousOfChange

SUZI: It's knowing that we could easily run into people who are programmed to spy on us, snitch on us or form a committee around us. It's knowing that we have utterly lost our entire paradigm of existence and have to rebuild from scratch.

That sums it up exactly. For a "born in" it is all they know. It is their Universe. They've been warned to be afraid of the "world" and yet that's where they find themselves -- out in the "world".

Doc

LisaRose

No, its not becauase they use the bible, its because the use cult mind control. This has affected you more than you can know while still in or shortly after leaving, it takes a while for it to weat off completely. The Watchtower taught us to doubt our own thoughts and desires, to fear armageddon, to fear leaving them, to fear apostates, worldly people, etc. Even after you learn ttatt it can still be affecting you.

James Mixon

"They just haven't tried to trademark it..." That's funny, but true.

John Aquila

It’s hard because you were promised that you wouldn’t die.

You were promised that you would live forever in paradise earth.

It was explained perfectly why there was wickedness on the earth and why we grow old and die.

Then after many years and when your life is almost over, they pull the carpet under your feet and take away your family.

Other religions don’t do these things.

SuziDrums

Another big shock, after 35 years as a jw, was realizing that although I "knew" the Bible backwards and forwards, it was with the jw bias and their slant on everything pointing to them. Just the staggering shock that the New World Translation was at least as highly manipulated and biased as the worst of other translations sponsored by religious groups. Duh. Tracking back to "original source" material goes further back than you might think. And looking afresh at the selection process and critical analysis leaves one with a vast array of previously-unconsidered possibilities.

Phizzy

Thanks for a great Thread, and thanks to Suzidrums for a great Post, your closing sentence needs constantly repeating for those still in :

" Main thing to remember: The Borg is a burning building. The first decision is simply to get out alive. Then you can figure out where to go and what to do when you get away from all the filthy atmosphere."

Is it More Difficult for Us?

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