Abuse redress depends on God: Jehovah's Witnesses

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  • Bangalore
    Bangalore

    Abuse redress depends on God: Jehovah's Witnesses.

    http://www.9news.com.au/national/2015/08/14/03/37/inquiry-to-hear-from-top-jehovah-member

    The Jehovah's Witnesses will only compensate survivors of sex abuse if God tells them to, a royal commission has been told.

    Senior church figure Geoffrey Jackson told the sex abuse royal commission that any changes the Jehovah's Witnesses made to their rules and doctrine had to be informed by God.

    Mr Jackson said God's word is accessed through the Bible and the church's first-century interpretation of it.

    Chief Commissioner Peter McClellan asked him on Friday if the church would be willing to take part in a joint scheme with other institutions to provide financial redress to abuse survivors.

    Mr Jackson told him the church would need to see that "nothing was scripturally against us doing that", but it was something that was not totally out of the "option pool".

    The commission is also examining why none of the church's 1006 Australian child abuse cases in a 50-year period was reported to police.

    Mr Jackson said there was a biblical underpinning to the practice on not going to police, but the church would comply with secular law if reporting to police was mandatory.

    He also quoted the Bible to defend the exclusion of women from decision-making roles in the Jehovah's and to argue that the rule of needing two witnesses to prove any wrong doing had strong scriptural basis.

    He said women would never hold leadership roles in the Jehovah's Witness because the bible forbids it, quoting scripture which warns against women in the congregation becoming over excited and arguing with the church leaders.

    Justice McClellan stressed it was important for women to be involved in deciding if a sex abuse allegation was true and in the support of victims.

    A member of the church's New York based governing body which interprets and spreads the word to its eight million global followers, Mr Jackson said there was a possibility of considering the involvement of women.

    He stopped short of apologising to those abused by elders but said it's "perceivable" the church would apologise if there was a collective decision.

    Counsel for the commission Angus Stewart, SC challenged Mr Jackson on the scriptural basis for needing two witnesses to a sexual assault.

    Mr Stewart quoted Deuteronomy, a book of the old testament, which says if a woman is raped in a field and screams and there are no other witnesses it is sufficient for the man to be stoned to death.

    "Is it not the case that had Jesus been asked about a case of sexual abuse he may have referred back to this part of Deuteronomy?" Mr Stewart asked.

    Mr Jackson said he would certainly like to ask Jesus the question but could not at the moment.

    "I hope to in the future," he said.

    Mr Jackson and other church officials have told the commission the two witness rule in abuse cases was changing to take in circumstances.

    The commission heard earlier the church believes the end of the world is near and only 144,000 will make it to heaven, the rest will live in paradise on earth.

    © AAP 2015


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    Bangalore
  • stuckinarut2
    stuckinarut2
    Well written article!
  • LoveUniHateExams
    LoveUniHateExams

    A predictable, pathetic response from the WTS.

    And also complete nonsense - child abuse is a very serious crime, so a secular government is more than adequate to seek redress for victims of abuse.

    "Pay back Caesar's things to Caesar" - Jesus of Nazareth.

  • DesirousOfChange
    DesirousOfChange

    People may have thought of these men as fools, but all doubt is removed once they open their mouth.

    Too bad it wasn't Lett instead of Jackson. He would have made a total fool out of himself (in just his mannerisms).

    Doc

  • notsurewheretogo
    notsurewheretogo

    Ha so God is confused about what the term "Generation" means and has to continually correct it.

    Has so God keeps getting confused if the inhabitants of Sodom & Gomorrah are getting a resurrection and continually changes it.

    Because God dictates doctrine to the GB yet the GB are never wrong as they are just messengers and God is a God of truth.

    Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

  • Incognito
    Incognito

    The commission is also examining why none of the church's 1006 Australian child abuse cases in a 50-year period was reported to police.

    Mr Jackson said there was a biblical underpinning to the practice on not going to police, but the church would comply with secular law if reporting to police was mandatory.

    I understand the 1006 is in reference to offenders, not cases. I recall the number of cases is closer to 1700.

    I also understand that Australia has a few states or territories where reporting has already been mandatory for some time. As such, it would be reasonable to assume that at least one of those incidents occurred in a 'reporting is mandatory' territory yet, not a single incident was reported to authorities.

    If Australia did require mandatory reporting in every territory, that is no assurance that JW's/WT would comply.

    Edited as OP from tablet was incorrect and edits on a computer were necessary.

  • Brokeback Watchtower
    Brokeback Watchtower
    Their stupidity and vainglorious ignorance is being exposed big time!
  • Vidiot
    Vidiot
    Obfuscate, prevaricate, disseminate...

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