Anything wrong with this story?

by crownboy 7 Replies latest jw friends

  • crownboy
    crownboy

    I thought this email was funny (not in the cute way). I'll give the pastor a "W" for use of illustration.

    God's Great Grace
    > > I wonder how many people will delete this without reading it because of
    the title on it?
    > > There once was a man named George Thomas, pastor in a small New England
    town. One Easter Sunday morning he came to the Church carrying a rusty,
    bent, old bird cage, and set it by the pulpit. Eyebrows were raised and, as
    if in response, Pastor Thomas began to speak... "I was walking through town
    yesterday when I saw a young boy coming toward me swinging this bird cage.
    On the bottom of the cage were three little wild birds, shivering with cold
    and fright. I stopped the lad and asked, "What you got there, son?"
    > "Just some old birds," came the reply.
    > > "What are you gonna do with them?" I asked. "Take 'em home and have fun
    with 'em," he answered. "I'm gonna tease 'em and pull out their feathers to
    make 'em fight. I'm gonna have a real good time."
    > "But you'll get tired of those birds sooner or later. What will you
    do?" "Oh, I got some cats," said the little boy. "They like birds. I'll take
    'em to them."
    > > The pastor was silent for a moment. "How much do you want for those
    birds, son?" "Huh?? !!! Why, you don't want them birds, mister. They're just
    plain old field birds. They don't sing. They ain't even pretty!"
    > "How much?" the pastor asked again.The boy sized up the pastor as if he
    were crazy and said, "$10?" The pastor reached in his pocket and took out a
    ten-dollar bill. He placed it in the boy's hand. In a flash, the boy was
    gone. The pastor picked up the cage and gently carried it to the end of the
    alley where there was a tree and a grassy spot. Setting the cage down, he
    opened the door, and by softly tapping the bars persuaded the birds out,
    setting them free.
    > > Well, that explained the empty birdcage on the pulpit, and then the
    pastor began to tell this story:
    > > One day Satan and Jesus were having a conversation. Satan had just come
    from the Garden of Eden, and he was gloating and boasting."Yes, sir, I just
    caught the world full of people down there. Set me a trap, used bait I knew
    they couldn't resist. Got 'em all!" "What are you going to do with them?"
    Jesus asked. & gt; Satan replied, "Oh, I'm gonna have fun! I'm
    > > gonna teach them how to marry and divorce each other, how to hate and
    abuse each other, how to drink and smoke and curse. I'm gonna teach them how
    to invent guns and bombs and kill each other. I'm really gonna have fun!"
    > > "And what will you do when you get done with them?" Jesus asked. "Oh,
    I'll kill 'em," Satan glared proudly.
    > > "How much do you want for them?" Jesus asked. "Oh, you don't want those
    people. They ain't no good. Why, you'll take them and they'll just hate you.
    They'll spit on you, curse you and kill you. You don't want those people!!"
    > > "How much? He asked again. Satan looked at Jesus and sneered, "All your
    blood, tears and your life." Jesus said, "DONE!" Then He paid the price.
    > > The pastor picked up the cage he opened the door and he walked from the
    pulpit.
    > > Notes: Isn't it funny how simple it is for people to trash God and then
    wonder why the world's going to hell. Isn't it funny how someone can say, "I
    believe in God" but still follow Satan (who, by the way, also "believes" in
    God)? Isn't it funny how you can send a thousand jokes through e-mail and
    they spread like wildfire, but when you start sending
    > > messages regarding the Lord, people think twice about sharing. Isn't it
    funny how when you go to forward this message, you will not send it to many
    on your address list because you're not sure what they believe, or what they
    will think of you for sending it to the e-mail.
    Isn't it funny
    > > how I can be more worried about what other people think of me than what
    God thinks of me. I pray, for everyone who sends this to their entire
    address book, they will be blessed by God in a way special for them in a way
    special for them. And send it back to the person who sent it, to let them
    know that indeed it was sent out to many more.
    > > The best antique is an old friend"--Anonymous
  • Farkel
    Farkel

    The problem with the story about God and Satan is that if the Bible is to be believed, it's not factual.

    God's done all the killing in the Bible, not Satan.

    Farkel

  • JT
    JT

    Once again we see another attempt to explain the unexplainable-

    such two- bit illustrations such as this are written in a format that is like writing a script for some sat morning super hero cartoon- take for example:

    One day Satan and Jesus were having a conversation. Satan had just come
    from the Garden of Eden, and he was gloating and boasting."Yes, sir, I just
    caught the world full of people down there. Set me a trap, used bait I knew
    they couldn't resist. Got 'em all!

    now if jesus is god as believed by many and all knowing, where was jesus /god when satan was setting the trap- didn't jesus/god see humans being set up,

    What are you going to do with them?"
    Jesus asked. & gt; Satan replied, "Oh, I'm gonna have fun! I'm
    > > gonna teach them how to marry and divorce each other, how to hate and
    abuse each other, how to drink and smoke and curse. I'm gonna teach them how
    to invent guns and bombs and kill each other. I'm really gonna have fun!"

    now this story says that jesus asked satan WHAT ARE YOUR GOING TO DO WITH THEM since you have trapped them and satan says--- teach them to hurt each other, at that point jesus offers to buy mankind before they are used by satan or taught to hurt each other, yet we see that jesus purchased mankind but satan was still allowed to teach mankind to hurt each other

    "And what will you do when you get done with them?" Jesus asked. "Oh,
    I'll kill 'em," Satan glared proudly

    now according the bible this same jesus/god, plans on killing ANYONE WHO doesn't agree with him as well- for example all musliums, buddist and hindus will be killed since they don't accept this "Jesus/God" as their savoir- we all know that one of the rules is you gotta be "BORN AGAIN", (now there are those who are christians who say you don't have to be BA, but they can argue that among themselves) so that pretty much means 5 billion folks who are not christians are Sh!T Outa LucK smile

    now in the story that they were comparing this to-- the little boy and the pastor,-- the pastor bought the birds BEFOREthe little boy could hurt the birds, yet jesus buys us before satan had hurt mankind, yet he still ALLOWED SATAN TO HURT US AFTER HE BOUGHT US anyway - GREAT ILLUSTRATION SHERLOCK!!!!

    so once again, in folks attempt to try and explain the unexplainable they always put together some little fifty cent illustration that once you take it apart FALLS ON IT'S FACE

    nice try i guess

  • alfie
    alfie

    I'll tell you what's wrong with this story; I get these all the time too. The problem as I see it is it's another cheap attempt at proseletyzing and shoving someone else's beliefs down my throat. I usually just delete the letter, but from now on I'm going to reply to the sender and tell them my JW story.

    CIAO4NIAO!!

    alfie

  • JamesThomas
    JamesThomas

    As long as people continue to shrink, belittle and anthropomorphize God into just some other player in a bigger universe, silly stories like this will flourish. JamesT

  • JT
    JT

    ALFIE

    i agree with you 110%

  • JT
    JT

    As long as people continue to shrink, belittle and anthropomorphize God into just some other player in a bigger universe,

    %%%%%%%%%%%%%

    could you further comment on this thougth jamesthomas

  • JamesThomas
    JamesThomas

    Sure JT, When we allow our minds to create an image of the Source of this magnificent Universe we immediately set up a factious drama in which God is a player. When we anthropomorphize God and make It into a person or invisible entity, we have taken what is Infinite and without bounds, and made it into a "thing", an object....just another scrap in a far bigger universe. The mind doesn't like players without a play, so it creates a human drama were God thinks and acts like a man....and not a very nice one at that. It creates a drama where we are separate from the Source and we then need to fight and scratch our way back. A drama where there are good guys and bad guys....and of course we are always the ones with the white hat: the ones with the "true" belief system or religion. There's really nothing wrong with this, except when we believe it is real. Then we have millions upon millions dying and being tortured and condemned in the name of God. We find ourselves feeling separate and apart, not only from God, but from all humanity and nature, and thus we come to view others and nature as something we must fight and protect ourselves against. In a way we have died and gone to hell....for we feel cut-off from our true Sustenance. As long as we continue to not investigate this grand drama, we will be dragged right along with it, like being swept by a strong current. Of course to bring into question what we have for so long taken for granted as real, is a little radical. JamesT

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