spoken to my sister at long last

by nightwarrior 6 Replies latest jw friends

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  nightwarrior

  Mrs Nightwarrior here,

  well i have spoken to a couple of close friends about us leaving the borg, and now after quite awhile, i have told my sister... thankfully it came as a natural progression in a telephone conversation we were having....

  I told her about the facts that we have found out over the last few months, and all the research that we had done, and she was not interested, in that she said, the same old thing, that we all seem to hear, well it is a perfect organisation run by imperfect man, oh that really annoys me..and that jehovah would deal with those bros that had been wrong in the way that we have been treat, and that I should stil go to the KH, and sit at the back and listen, and then leave, it was unbelievable.

  Then I mentioned about the UN... she knew nothing of this, and where did I find all the information from...here goes, by researching on the Web... well that was a red rag to a bull....she suddenly had to go and do her husbands dinner, after telling me initially that she had time to talk to me...

  Sadly me sister is a person that unless she has found the information, she does not want to know....and everyone else is wrong.... and yes you guessed right, she is not interested in what I had to say..

  I mentioned Ray Franz, and the reasons as to why he was disf. her answer... well he must have been apostate!!

  I could go on.... I said that I hoped that she would still talk to me..... and that in the end we were sisters and we have always been close... but only time will tell..

  No doubt, we will have a barrage of phone calls or nothing at all, so now the waiting begins....

  To be honest, I do not really care because I feel that I have been lied to for years now, and if my sister wishes to believe lies she can, and really all that she has ever been interested in, is her husband becoming an elder, her daughter becoming a pioneer, and her son working in Bethel, so despite me telling her all sorts, even regarding Bethel, and she still wants to be party to all of that she is welcome.

  Also, she will have gone to the Group this evening, and spoken to one of 'her' elders, oh this should be fun.

  Well this conversation has been a long time in coming and now it has, I am relieved, and I feel now that I can get on with lots of other things (note: I come from a close family).

  Oh well thought I would keep you updated.

  Mrs Nightwarrior
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  Sargon

  I told her about the facts that we have found out over the last few months, and all the research that we had done, and she was not interested, in that she said, the same old thing, that we all seem to hear, well it is a perfect organisation run by imperfect man, oh that really annoys me..and that jehovah would deal with those bros that had been wrong in the way that we have been treat, and that I should stil go to the KH, and sit at the back and listen, and then leave, it was unbelievable.

  Mrs. Nightwarrior,

  I can relate fully to what you are saying. It's been many years since I left the organization and I never had any conversations with any of my family members about why I left. Actually they all thought they knew why, so they never questioned, when in fact they were totally clueless.

  I too had come from a close family. Unfortunately by not talking these matters over with them 25 years ago has left a rift that never seems to heal. I'm not as close to the members of my family who are witnesses as I am to those who aren't. All I can say is try to maintain conversation with her, maybe one day she'll pay attention.

  Steve.
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  acsot

  Mrs. Nightwarrior:

  Sorry to hear of your sister's reaction. However, I would have reacted exactly the same way not so long ago, "being faithful to the organisation" and all that. Maybe a teeny, tiny doubt has crept into her mind. If so, in time it may just rip open the curtains she's trying so desperately to keep closed, the curtains keeping out the sun - the freedom of thinking and deciding for herself.

  Took me a long time to see the light, maybe one day she'll come around.
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  Francois

  I'm sorry for you too.

  But please try to take what solace you can from remembering that you are attempting to deal logically, rationally, and intellectually with a person who is dealing with the subject emotionally. You might as well be attempting to have a conversation about partial differential equations with an angry bureaucrat. In a way, you are.

  francois
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  Farkel

  Mrs. Nightwarrier,

  : that we all seem to hear, well it is a perfect organisation run by imperfect man,

  Um, ask her how imperfect men who RUN that "perfect" organization and who make mistakes, and thus make that same organization make the mistakes that they make when they make their mistakes can still be "perfect."

  This is double think at its finest: 1) an organization (a non-human entity) is perfect. 2) The men who run it and dictate what it says and does are not perfect and they make mistakes. 3) Since these same men who run the organization cause the organization to make mistakes (since they RUN it in the first place), the organization must also logically make the same mistakes the men who RUN it make.

  Therefore, the organization is perfect, but the men who make it do everything it does, including the stuff it does wrong are "imperfect,." yet the organization who makes the same mistakes these men who run it make because they RUN it in the first place, is "perfect."

  Makes perfect sense to me!

  Farkel
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  Guest 77

  NW, it would seem that your comment, "...and really all that she was ever been interested in, is her husband becoming an elder, her daughter becoming a pioneer and her son working in Bethel...she wants to be a party to all of that...' says, it all. She's enjoying the party and she doesn't want YOU or anyone else to ruin it. As the song goes, "It's my party..."

  Guest 77
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  SloBoy

  Nightwarrior,

  When I first read the scripture in 2 Thess.2:11,12, about certain ones wanting to believe the LIE, and taking pleasure in it, I had a pretty distorted picture of those that were being discussed. Experiences like yours help me get a clearer idea of who that scripture applies to, and why they do it.