Have You Forgotten?

by freedom96 6 Replies latest jw friends

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  freedom96

  I heard a song on the radio yesterday, that I wonder if many have heard. It is being boycotted by many country radio stations. I personally don't listen to much country, but had a chance to hear this song on a national radio talk show. The fact that so much pressure has been put on these radio shows to boycott this makes me sad.

  I am not a war fan, however I recognize when our country is in danger. We must protect ourselves. Sometimes, that means striking first. This reminds me of my martial arts background. We are taught not to start a confrontation, but to end it. We do not go out to seek violence, but instead to recognize when there is danger. When in a confrontation, we sense what is going to happen. The enemy will make moves to show his intentions. We are taught to watch for it. People by and large do the same things in this type of situation. We are perceptive, and if it escalates, we take care of it. Personally, I would never take the stance to wait and see in a fight. If a person comes to me, and starts causing problems, am I going to wait until he punches me, and then figure I must do something about it? What about myself? What about my family? I would be putting myself and my family at risk because I want to wait and see if the person really means me harm. That just does not make sense. At that point, it might be too late. Therefore, I must take action to protect not only myself, but my family and friends.

  That being said, please understand what I am saying. I am not a bully, and through many years of training, I have not had to exercise force. I am not one who puts myself in dangerous situations. It has gotten close a couple of times in my life, and each time it was handled before anything happened.

  The United States has tried for years to solve this situation with Saddam and others. This is the breaking point. Saddam has shown his true intentions. It is up to us to finish him, before he finishes us.

  Back to the song. Here are the lyrics, and I think it sums it all up very well. Though I am not a huge country fan, I will go out and buy this album when it comes out in April. I want to do my part to help this become a number one hit regardless of what the media says.

  HAVE YOU FORGOTTEN??

  I hear people saying we don't need this war

  I say there's some things worth fighting for

  What about our freedom and this piece of ground?

  We didn't get to keep 'em by backing down

  They say we don't realize the mess we're getting in

  Let me ask you this my friend

  CHORUS 1

  Have you forgotten how it felt that day

  To see your homeland under fire

  And her people blown away?

  Have you forgotten when those towers fell?

  We had neighbors still inside

  Going through a living hell

  And you say we shouldn't worry 'bout Bin Laden

  Have you forgotten?

  They took all the footage off my T.V.

  Said it's too disturbing for you and me

  It'll just breed anger that's what the experts say

  If it was up to me I'd show it every day

  Some say this country's just out looking for a fight

  After 9/11 man I'd have to say that's right

  CHORUS 1

  Have you forgotten how it felt that day

  To see your homeland under fire

  And her people blown away?

  Have you forgotten when those towers fell?

  We had neighbors still inside

  Going through a living hell

  And you say we shouldn't worry 'bout Bin Laden

  Have you forgotten?

  I've been there with the soilders

  Who've gone away to war

  And you can bet they remember

  Just what they're fighting for

  CHORUS 2

  Have you forgotten all the people killed?

  Some went down like heros in that Pennsylvania field

  Have you forgotten about our Pentagon?

  All the loved ones that we lost

  And those left to carry on

  Don't you tell me not to worry about Bin Laden

  Have you forgotten?
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  DJ

  Hi Freedom,

  No, I never heard that song......probably never will. We don't really get country music here in Pennsylvania.

  I thought that this war was about Saddam. The song was about Bin Laden. I just wish that America had a way of getting to Bin Laden and Saddam without killing innocent Iraqi's. You'd think that we.....America........the Superpower would be a bit more sophisticated in our abilities to capture these guys w/o dropping bombs on tons of innocent people. The Iraqi's are not at fault. They are mom's and dad's and grandparents and brothers and sisters and aunts and uncles and babies who bleed red just like us.

  It won't solve our problems if we capture Saddam or Bin Laden because there are two many other new weeds that will crop up after them. It won't solve our problems to kill a buch of Iraqi's either. There is no good answer here, IMO. The world is full of hate and violence and that's just the way it is. America blew it a long time ago. Our carrot and stick approach is nothing short of bribery and dictatorship. No wonder people hate us. We are no better than anyone else. This country is the country that I love but I don't agree with the men in suits in DC about as much as I don't agree with the men in suits in Brooklyn.
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  Sara Annie

  No, I never heard that song......probably never will. We don't really get country music here in Pennsylvania.

  I think not. Let's try to remember that the fact that you live in Pennsylvania, and that you don't regularly listen to country music doesn't mean that the entire state doesn't have regular access to it. Flip around your dial, I'm sure there are countless stations you've been unaware of.

  It's a Daryl Worley, right? I don't know what all the fuss is about. A boycott seems a little ironic to me. Seems like it hits a little closer to home than people would like it to. As I love irony in all of it's various forms, I say a heartfelt: "Puh-leeze".
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  COMF

  Yes, I heard this song once on the radio. I groaned as I listened to the singer's textbook case of a red herring, and thought of how many people, on hearing this song, will be suckered in and think it actually makes sense.

  http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/red-herring.html

  Also Known as: Smoke Screen, Wild Goose Chase.

  Description of Red Herring

  A Red Herring is a fallacy in which an irrelevant topic is presented in order to divert attention from the original issue. The basic idea is to "win" an argument by leading attention away from the argument and to another topic. This sort of "reasoning" has the following form:

  1. Topic A is under discussion.
  2. Topic B is introduced under the guise of being relevant to topic A (when topic B is actually not relevant to topic A).
  3. Topic A is abandoned.

  This sort of "reasoning" is fallacious because merely changing the topic of discussion hardly counts as an argument against a claim.

  The war is against Iraq and Saddam Hussein. What's that got to do with freedom? What does he mean, "backing down"? Backing down from what? What does attacking Iraq have to do with the towers falling? What does Osama bin Laden have to do with Bush's war against Iraq?

  So, if somebody comes up to my house in the night and throws a rock through my window and then runs off and hides, is it okay for me to go beat up my neighbor across the street about it?
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  ozziepost

  It won't solve our problems if we capture Saddam or Bin Laden because there are two many other new weeds that will crop up after them. It won't solve our problems to kill a buch of Iraqi's either. There is no good answer here, IMO. The world is full of hate and violence and that's just the way it is. America blew it a long time ago. Our carrot and stick approach is nothing short of bribery and dictatorship. No wonder people hate us. We are no better than anyone else.

  Wise words from DJ. I wish Blair would see that too. And the Australian PM too, for that matter.

  Of course, if this is really about Septemebr 11 it would be justified IMO. But from our vantage point downunder we haven't seen that there is a link between Saddam and 9-11. Hence the demos. Apparently the Europeans can't see a link either.

  Cheers, Ozzie
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  freedom96

  I come from a military city, and trust me, there are huge ties to Bin Laden and Saddam.
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  COMF

  Would you care to elaborate? What is a "military city"? How does coming from such a city give one inside information?