C. T. Russell, Knight Templar

by NotFormer 4 Replies latest watchtower scandals

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  NotFormer

  I've come across stuff on the web that states that Russell claimed to be both a Knight Templar and a Mason. And also stuff on here that quotes various such organisations saying that Russell didn't display enough knowledge about them to have ever been a member.

  Why do people act like such a revelation about Russell is some sort of smoking gun? Rutherford purged Russell from the organisation as soon as he could.

  The people who would be more worried about the accusation would more likely to be members of the various surviving Bible Students groups. What do they say about it all?

  And how are they doing, these days?
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  NotFormer

  https://food4jws.wordpress.com/2011/03/14/bible-students-and-jehovahs-witnesses-whats-the-difference/

  "Today, Jehovah’s Witnesses can read the writings of Baptists, Methodists, Catholics & etc., however, some have been excommunicated and ostracized for reading, studying and agreeing with the writings of Charles Taze Russell."

  Methinks that the Bible Students are claiming to be "special" in JWs eyes. Can JWs be disfellowshipped for reading the writings of Baptists, Methodists, Catholics & etc.?

  Is reading old Russell material a disfellowshipable offence?
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  enoughisenough

  I think it a smoking gun because Russell claimed the titel of the faithful and wise slave and he published the WT and other magazines and books that you HAD to accept over what the Bible says because he was giving meat at due season. The org doesn't want the R and F to read what Russell wrote....because for a fatihful slave giving spiritual food, it has proved to be lies. So the JW religion is founded upon lies. The org teaches you to look at the foundation of teachings ( xmas and easter for ex ) , but they don't want people looking beyond what they write about Russell. I think it safe to say you would be labeled apostate if you went around telling all the false teachings of Russel ( millions now living will never die -Micheal arch angel is the pope. Pyramidology proves the Bible timeline they taught.) The org doesn't want new ones to learn this stuff. To learn it and to tell it to others in the congregation would be stirring up contentions-yeah, you could be df.
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  truthlover123

  Interesting that there are folks who do follow Russell today. They dress, have assemblies and conventions and are you would think hey, thats a sister!, mostly in Europe. AND they are not JW's--There has been a early morning program on for years from Texas I think, that promotes Russells books and teaching. My son ordered books from them. Pyramidology, Plan for the Ages, etc. exactly like he taught back in 18-1900's dying on Oct 31, 1916. Memorials are still held for him, from what I heard.
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  vienne

  Millions Now Living was a Rutherford product. Not Russell's. Russell never said that Michael was the Pope. [Oh, for goodness sake!]. And for historic context, many believed as did Russell about the great pyramid, including clergy who are still read and admired. That would include Seiss and Larkin.

  Russell never claimed to be a mason or a knights templar. Too much silliness in this.