A stupid, pointless story of "humility" on JWTalk

ukpimo

https://jwtalk.net/topic/60143-sighjust-another-lesson-in-humility-for-tim

If you can stomach reading this brother's experience via this link, please let me know your views. For one thing, I'm absolutely dumbfounded that this website JWtalk even exists considering all the warnings the Governing Body have given the org on not creating their own websites. Furthermore, the experience given is absolutely horrible. In my life experience these past 7 decades, I have observed this same nasty and controlling atmosphere from elders: "let's make an issue out of nothing". It's almost as if when elders aren't so "busy", they need to magnify the smallest of an issue to make it seem like they're actually doing their "shepherding" duties. When elders make you feel bad about something that never goes against a bible principle, questioning your sanity, ask yourself:

"Am I the one who needs to work on humility, or is it not in fact the elders who need to do so?"

I hope the OP on JWtalk migrates over here, sees this post and rids himself of all the improper feelings of guilt, freeing himself from the shackles of the Organization.

jhine

Well to play devil's advocate here it is unwise to get into the middle of a marital dispute without knowing all the facts . These things can end up coming back and biting you . The point about ultimately being responsible for the outcome is valid .

However l am really not sure about automatically sending someone off to talk to Elders . How qualified are they in giving marital advice, especially knowing how they misinterpret Scripture.

I would have thought that if the situation between husband and wife was that bad then marriage counselling was appropriate. That's never going to happen though because a Witness would never talk to a " worldly " person about marriage, or anything else.

Jan from Tam

hoser

I found it interesting that two elders were on the phone with him, like a wrongdoing investigation.

The whole situation can be summed up

Don’t be a busybody…that’s our job!

TonusOH

I find it interesting that a person who was already engaged with his local elders decided to go to another elder (who was not involved in whatever was going on) for "advice." Sounds like the guy was shopping for an opinion or information that would help him, and he knew that most elders will offer advice if asked. I'm thinking that the person who sent the text --apparently without clarifying what was really going on-- is the person at fault.

Sure, "Tim" should have been a bit circumspect, but if this is a person who had his personal number and was sending texts, it's easy to understand why his guard might have been down. Plus, lots of elders I knew were busybodies and this seems to extend to the organization itself. It's the perfect setup for something like this to happen. And now, "Tim" will respond to future cries for help with hesitation and suspicion...

(I'm also curious as to what his information consisted of and how it affected the situation for the other two elders. Looks like they didn't like being undermined or perhaps exposed for a lack of knowledge or understanding. It would explain why they were so direct and forward in dealing with 'Tim.')

HereIam60

Just insane. He's asked a question, responds in all sincerity, an elder talks to him about toads and beetles and he's filled with shame?...Interesting quote..."...it's very impotant that you understand how inserting yourself into a situation can make you responsible for what that situatiion becomes".....Elders should think of that..!