"Slave" is confused about the start of judgment!

by BoogerMan 5 Replies latest watchtower bible

  • BoogerMan
    BoogerMan

    (1 Peter 4:17) "...it is the appointed time for the judgment to start with the house of God."

    Either 33 C.E. or 1918:

    w04 3/1 p. 16 par. 15 - "....Christ Jesus...in 1918, he came to God’s spiritual temple and fulfilled Peter’s words: “It is the appointed time for the judgment to start with the house of God.” (1Peter 4:17)

    w96 4/1 p. 18 par. 8 - Mankind has entered a period of judgment. We are informed at 1 Peter 4:17 that judgment started “with the house of God”—a judgment of professed Christian organizations that has been apparent since...1914-18.

    bw chap. 8 p. 133 par. 49 - As a “house of God,” the Christian congregation had its beginning in 33 C.E. From that time onward its members have been under divine judgment.

  • NotFormer
    NotFormer
    Nice catch. What date is that last entry (and what is "bw")?
  • Konagirl
    Konagirl

    Well, the “house of God” is defined in Isa 43:10; 2 Peter 2:5,9; 1 Cor 3:16-17; Eph 2:20-22 – the anointed priesthood and spiritual temple of God. And the large majority today, are still found in the Wt., being led by such confusing teachings that you presented.

    But, interestingly, their “1000 years”, their “peaceful” reign of Christ AFTER Armageddon, is also referred to as a time of judgment – “Judgment Day” (Bible Teach, pgs 213-215) . So, why are JWs being judged twice? No wonder they tolerate Wt lies, thinking that they have a thousand years to straighten themselves out.

    Since the first century…

    Matt 10:34 -37 -
    “Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. 35 For I have come to turn

    “‘a man against his father,
    a daughter against her mother,
    a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law—
    36 a man’s enemies will be the members of his own household.’

    Heb 4:12 – “For the word of God is alive and active. Sharper than any double-edged sword, it penetrates even to dividing soul and spirit, joints and marrow; it judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart.”

    Col 2:8 – “See to it that no one takes you captive through hollow and deceptive philosophy, which depends on human tradition and the elemental spiritual forces of this world rather than on Christ.”

    Matt 24:24-25 – “For false christs and false prophets will rise and show great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect (anointed). 25 See, I have told you beforehand.”

    Psalm 55:21 – “His talk is smooth as butter, yet war is in his heart; his words are more soothing than oil, yet they are drawn swords.”

    Rev 16:13-16 - And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs coming out of the mouth of the dragon, out of the mouth of the beast, (organization) and out of the mouth of the false prophet. 14 For they are spirits of demons, performing signs, which go out to the kings of the earth ( Christ’s kings, Rev 1:5; 5:9-10) and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty. 15 “Behold, I am coming as a thief. Blessed is he who watches, and keeps his garments, lest he walk naked and they see his shame.”

    16 And they gathered them together (the "saints") to the place called in Hebrew, Armageddon.

    1 Tim 4:1 – “Now the Spirit expressly says that in latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons

    Every lie, every failed doctrine that Watchtower and its leaders have told, are not from Christ who is Truth, the Word (John 1:1), but from “deceiving” and very convincing, spirits”.

    2 Cor 10 4-5 – “For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal but mighty in God for pulling down strongholds, 5 casting down arguments and every high thing that exalts itself against the knowledge of God, bringing every thought into captivity to the obedience of Christ”

    Eph 5:6-7 – “Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of these things the wrath of God comes upon the sons of disobedience. 7 Therefore do not be partakers with them.”

    1 Cor. 10:21-22 – “You cannot drink the cup of the Lord and the cup of demons; you cannot partake of the Lord’s table and of the table of demons. 22 Or do we provoke the Lord to jealousy? Are we stronger than He?”

    Armageddon is a battle of Christ’s truth against the lies of false prophets who deceive, “take captive” with false doctrine, empty words, empty philosophy, and “surround” “the elect”/”saints”. Luke 21:20,24; 2 The ss 2:3-4; Rev 11:1-2; Rev 20:7-9

    God told Israel through Jeremiah, "This is what the Lord of Armies says: “Do not listen to the words of the prophets who prophesy to you. They are deluding you. They speak visions from their own minds, not from the Lord’s mouth." Jer 23:29

    But what does Wt say? Don't be picky when it comes to your spiritual food. Eat it without complaining.

    2 Cor 11: 13-15 - “For such people are false apostles, deceitful workers, masquerading as apostles of Christ. 14 And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. 15 It is not surprising, then, if his servants also masquerade as servants of righteousness. Their end will be what their actions deserve.”

    The Wt. is what, 150 years old? It has changed the whole dynamics of God’s word to convincing millions into devoting their lives to a blasphemous lie – “Jehovah’s spirit-directed organization”. Zech 5:5-11; Luke 22:24-27; Matt 24:48-51; Rev 13:1-2, 4,5-7,11-12,15-17; Rev 18:4-8

  • BoogerMan
    BoogerMan

    @ NotFormer - Bearing Witness (2009)


  • Sea Breeze
    Sea Breeze

    Romans 8 -


    There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

    2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

    3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:

    4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

    5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.

    6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.

    7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.

    8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.

    9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

    The judgement in 1 Peter 4: 17 is whether or not a person is born again and walking after the Spirit. It probably also includes the judgment of unbelievers on Jerusalem in 70 AD that Jesus famously predicted: "not a stone will be left on a stone" of the temple.

    When the temple was burned the gold melted and the Roman soldiers pried the stones apart to get it in a rather dramatic fulfillment of his prophecy.

    What is not meant (to the shame of Watchtower) is that Christians in the Church Age are under some sort of judgment. To the contrary, Christians are under Grace, not Law during the Church Age, if indeed they are born again. Professing Christians should check to make sure.

    There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus - Romans 8: 1

  • NotFormer
    NotFormer

    Thanks, BoogerMan!

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