Baptism on Fire

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  • peacefulpete
    peacefulpete

    Going through Justin Martyr's Dialogue with Trypho yesterday, I found a variation on the baptism scene :

    88. And let this be a proof to you, namely, what I told you was done by the Magi from Arabia, who as soon as the Child was born came to worship Him, for even at His birth He was in possession of His power; and as He grew up like all other men, by using the fitting means, He assigned its own [requirements] to each development, and was sustained by all kinds of nourishment, and w
    aited for thirty years, more or less, until John appeared before Him as the herald of His approach, and preceded Him in the way of baptism, as I have already shown. And then, when Jesus had gone to the river Jordan, where John was baptizing, and when He had stepped into the water, a fire was kindled in the Jordan; and when He came out of the water, the Holy Ghost lighted on Him like a dove, [as] the apostles of this very Christ of ours wrote.

    Justin's baptism scene is certainly more exciting than the usual Canonical version. A little digging online revealed similar traditions were evidenced from the 2nd century and continued for centuries.

    A 6th century hymn on the Epiphany by Romanos Melodos, XVI.14.7-10

    "and fire in the Jordan shining"

    Ephrem's commentary on the Diatessaron and Ishodad of Merv both declared that in an early version of the Diatessaron the words appeared:

    "... light shone forth, and over the Jordan was spread a vail of white clouds, and there appeared many hosts of spiritual beings who were praising God in the air; and quietly Jordan stood still from its flowing, its waters being at rest; and a sweet odor was wafted from thence.


    Kerygma Pauli (Preachings of Paul) "...when he was baptized, fire appeared upon the water."


    The 3 century "De rebaptismate" describes a group of Christians who included fire in their baptism ceremony following the above Kerygma Pauli.

    The Gospel of the Ebionites: "and immediately a great light shone around the place"

    Gregory of Antioch (6th CE) notes the fire on the Jordan in his Homilia in S. Theophania.

    And two Old Latin mss (ita vgms) of Matthew 13:

    And when Jesus was being baptized a great light flashed (a tremendous light flashed around) from the water, so that all who had gathered there were afraid


    There are apparently many more examples.

    Obviously, the symbolism of light and fire are in play.

  • Touchofgrey
    Touchofgrey

    Thanks again peacefulpete

    Does this have any connection to the classical elements of earth air fire and water.

    Greek philosophy and Astrology also used these four elements, and like many other things have these been adopted and grafted into religious beliefs.

  • peacefulpete
    peacefulpete

    TofG.....Light and fire as universal topoi for knowledge, purity, goodness and by association deity, are as old as man.

    I find the literary nature of these stories fascinating. there was an active free creative process in those early years. I.e. until institutional conformity froze certain versions of the legends into canon.

    The recurring reuse of motif and metaphor is another aspect of this. Fire/water, Light/dark, Crop sowing/harvesting, tree fertility/barrenness, water flowing/parting. spirit/bird wings etc. Leolaia did a neat thread years ago demonstrating how parables were reused as narrative and narrative as parable, they were two sides of the same coin.

    Jesus and the Fig Tree.

    In this case a corollary use of the imagery is seen in Matt 3:11 where this revisor of Mark takes the line, "I have been baptizing with water, he will baptize you with holy spirit" and adds "and fire". This then serves as segue for another parable featuring fire as a method of cleansing the threshing floor. Luke follows that pattern. It's impossible to say if there is a direct link between Matt's baptism with 'fire' and the baptism scene accompanied by fire but they come from the same milieu of popular topoi.

  • Touchofgrey
    Touchofgrey

    Thanks for the link ,very interesting and leolaia research much appreciated and well explained.

    Young Jesus being a little snot.

  • peacefulpete
    peacefulpete

    I ran across another interesting tradition in a fragmentary liturgical text of the 5th century in which the ground shakes as Jesus rises from the water.

    (P.Berol. 11633, lines 29-45):

    (29) We were filled with great joy (30) upon seeing the Jordan (31) when the one born upon earth as a man (32–34) appeared in it and the forerunner himself listened to your voice saying, “Let us (35) complete the plans of the Father.” (36) “Like the Lord wanted,” (37) said John. You, Christ, came down (38) into the water, The mountains leaped (39) like rams and the hills like a lamb (40) of the sheep. As you arose (41) from the Jordan a voice has (42) come from the sky to you (43) “This one is my beloved (44) Son in whom I am well pleased. (45) Fear him.”

  • peacefulpete
    peacefulpete

    As mentioned above the early Diatessaron mentioned the Jordan stopping its flow, This concept was shared by other early writers. The river also was thought to have momentarily reversed course.

    The Testimony of Truth describes the scene:

    But the Son of Man came forth from Imperishability, being alien to defilement. He came to the world by the Jordan river, and immediately the Jordan turned back. And John bore witness to the descent of Jesus.

    This text is one of many that understood the scene and its symbolism as metaphor for transition, but that is another topic.

    Orthodox Christians to this day celebrate the Epiphany in part by singing a hymn called, En Iorthani Vaptizomenou Sou Kyrie (When you Were Baptized in the Jordan Lord) and dropping crosses into the Jordan. Many believe the waters momentarily reverse. The Jordan Reversed Its Flow! / OrthoChristian.Com

    The obvious source of this tradition (like many if not all) is the OT. Specifically, the original Jesus (Joshua) and the crossing of the Jordan.

    Hippolytus quoting a Naassene work:

    This, according to them, is the spiritual generation. This, he says, is the great Jordan which, flowing on (here) below, and preventing the children of Israel from departing out of Egypt–I mean from terrestrial intercourse, for Egypt is with them the body,–Jesus drove back, and made it flow upwards.(RoAH book 5)

    In this quote Jesus is the OT character who was typologically understood.


  • aqwsed12345
    aqwsed12345

    Baptism of blood, that is, martyrdom, substitutes for water baptism. It is granted to those who suffer martyrdom for their Christian faith or for the defense of a Christian virtue, since the Lord said: “But whoever loses his life for my sake will find it.” (Mt 10:39) According to the universal teaching of theologians, martyrdom is the patient (non-resistant) endurance of mortal torments for Christ. If any one of the three elements indicated here is missing, it can no longer be considered martyrdom (e.g., the suffering and death of soldiers in war) (cf. Thom. III q. 124 a. 3; cf. Supl. q. 96 a. 6 ad 11; August. Epist. 89, 2; in Ps 34, 2.13; cf. I 153). However, neither desire nor baptism of blood has the sacramental character of baptism. These are rather expressions of the desire for baptism than of the actual sacramental baptism itself.

    Already in the Sermon on the Mount, Christ proclaims: “Blessed are those who are persecuted for righteousness’ sake, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.” (Mt 5:10; cf. Mk 10:38; Lk 12:50) Then: “Whoever acknowledges me before men, I also will acknowledge before my Father who is in heaven.” (Mt 10:32; cf. Mt 10:39; 16:28; Mk 8:35) “Whoever loses his life for my sake will save it.” (Lk 9:24; cf. Jn 12:25) “Greater love has no one than this, that someone lay down his life for his friends.” (Jn 15:13) The Revelation sees the martyrs in the triumphal procession of the heavenly Jerusalem: “These are they who have come out of the great tribulation; they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. Therefore they are before the throne of God and serve him day and night.” (Rev 7:14–15)

    Tradition gives expression to this conviction both in theory and in practice. In theory: “We also have a second bath, which is also unique, namely the bath of blood, of which the Savior says: I have a baptism to be baptized with, and how great is my distress until it is accomplished.” (Lk 12:50) “This is the baptism which replaces the water baptism not received, and restores the one that was lost.” (Tertullian, De Baptismo 16) Cyprian says of the catechumen martyrs: “They are not deprived of the sacrament of baptism, but are baptized in the most glorious and effective way, in the baptism of blood.” According to Saint Augustine, martyrdom has the same efficacy for the forgiveness of sins as water baptism (Cypr. Epist. 73, 22; August. De Civitate Dei XIII 7; Epist. 265, 4; Symbolum ad catechumenos 3, 4). The Greeks speak in the same way (Irenaeus III 16, 4; Cyril of Jerusalem, Catechesis 3, 10; Chrysostom, Homily on the Martyrdom of Lucian 2 [M 50, 522]). This profession of faith is confirmed by the Church’s practice: unbaptized martyrs were honored equally with the baptized (Martyrdom of Perpetua and Felicity 21; Emmerentiana – foster sister of Saint Agnes); and in the feast of the Holy Innocents, from the beginning, it was precisely martyrdom and the heavenly crown gained through martyrdom that were celebrated: “age still unfit for battle was already fit for victory.” (Cypr. Epist. 56, 6; cf. Iren. III 16, 4)

    The Roman Martyrology reports on many saints who received only baptism of blood, for when they converted after seeing the martyrdom of Christians and professed themselves as Christians, they were immediately seized and executed. Even young children can receive baptism of blood if they are killed for Christ or for their Christian faith. Such were the infants of Bethlehem, whom Herod had killed, and whose feast the Church celebrates on December 28.

    The believing mind first establishes the fact: According to Saint Thomas Aquinas, the power of baptism comes from its identification with the Passion of Jesus Christ and its connection with His cross (Thom. III q. 66 a. 11). This may happen in the ordinary, sacramental way through water baptism; or in an extraordinary, psychic way through perfect love, in which one gives oneself without reserve; and finally, by a special privilege of God, through suffering willingly undertaken for Christ and borne in His spirit, as the greatest proof of love: “Greater love has no one than this, that someone lay down his life for his friends.” (Jn 15:13)

    Then it establishes its efficacy:
    a) Baptism of blood agrees with baptism of desire in that it does not impart the sacramental character; but it agrees with water baptism in that it remits all sins and punishments. This is sufficiently indicated by the previously cited statements of Scripture, and is confirmed by the ancient proverb: “He is unjust to the martyr who prays for the martyr.” (August. Sermo 159, 1; cf. In Joannem 84; Thom. III q. 66 a. 12 ad 1)
    b) It exercises this efficacy almost as a physical effect (Thom. III q. 87 a. 1 ad 2; cf. II-II q. 124 a. 1 ad 1). If it did not operate with the force of a quasi-physical effect, it would not justify infants, and it would be difficult to understand how it remits all sins and punishments (as water baptism does). When we attribute this efficacy almost as a physical effect, we mean that the torturers are not the instruments chosen by God for the communication of grace, as is the sacramental sign. Why was baptism of blood not included by the Council of Trent in the enumeration of the means of rebirth, along with water and desire baptism? Clearly because baptism of blood always presupposes the wickedness of persecutors, which God does not will; and therefore martyrdom cannot simply and in all respects (simpliciter) be regarded as an instrument of spiritual rebirth willed by God. Martyrdom belongs to the category about which Saint Augustine says: “God prefers to bring good out of evil than to allow no evil at all” (I 484): “For those who love God, all things work together for good.”

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