The GB and Evil, WHY?

by jst2laws 7 Replies latest jw friends

  • jst2laws
    jst2laws

    Reading responses to JW72's current post I was reminded of a book I read more than ten years ago that makes it all fit together now.

    Being one who has hung on for years hoping for major reform within the JW administration I feel I now must accept reality. Why does the GB hang on to such unpopular and harmful teachings such as Blood, confidentiality for pedophiles, disfellowshipping, meddling in personal matters, irritating people with their door to door preaching and on and on?

    Years ago, I read a book by Dr. Scott Peck entitled People of the Lie. What the Author explains early on is that it is not a common practice for Mental Health professionals to label anyone as Evil, they simply display socially unacceptable behavior. But Doctor Peck also accepted reality, that there are some people who are truly evil. They are people who will persistently hurt others for what they can gain from it. I would at one time have argued this could not apply to the GB because they are not getting anything. I can vouch for them as for as financial issues go. True they live on some nice property but so do the “new boys” at Bethel who do not make the decisions. So what do they get out of sticking with mindless traditional teachings that cause great harm when they have the power to change them?

    I will summarize how Dr. Peck explains as for as my memory serves me. He explains that evil people, for fear of admitting they took a wrong course way back in life,(in this case WT history) are dedicated to building and preserving an image of goodness or perfection. This image must be preserved at all cost to hide not just the imperfection that exist, not just the harm they have caused, but the evil of not having changed the policies a long time ago. Their conscience can not stand the reality of what they have done and what they are, so when confronted with their own faults they lie, justify, or blame others. (Really, this is in the book) Some how they must appear to have either
    (1) Done the right thing or
    (2) The good they are doing is hidden by someone else’s evil.

    Basically, these people are evil deep in side but put on a pretence for themselves and others that they are good. The evil shows up when they are willing to lie, or "sacrifice" someone else in order to preserve their appearance of "good". Beck says, "strangely these people are trying to destroy evil" sincerely thinking of themselves as righteous in their efforts. I guess this makes it even harder to admit their own evil.

    It’s a good read. Peck is also the author of “The Road Less Traveled” with which, I hope, many or familiar.

    Jst2laws

    WT self incrimination: ‘When counseled, have we tried to justify ourselves, minimize the seriousness of the situation or shift the blame to someone else. Have you ever reacted in that way?” United in Worship, page 125

  • Stephanus
    Stephanus

    As an outsider, I was shocked when the full impact of the effects of the blood doctrine hit me. If the blood doctrine killed enemies of the WBTS, say members of Christendom, I could understand it. But it doesn't, it kills people loyal to the org, probably in the thousands! That this is evil is obvious; it also dismayed me to realise that the GB know that this antiquated, anti-science, anti-Bible doctrine only damages their own flock, but to back down from it would expose the fact that they know it. They'd rather keep perpetuating the evil than admit they could in anyway be wrong; the facade of infallibility must be maintained at all costs. There is a sense of power in knowing that, even though there is no solid basis to anything you say, there are some who will go so far as to sacrifice the lives of themselves and their children to the image of your infallibility.

    There is a more petty form of evil, too, manifested here by posters who read the true life stories of suffering and triumph by those who've left the 'Tower, and do notihng but ridicule the poster.

  • jst2laws
    jst2laws

    Hello Stephanus

    >”:to realise that the GB know that this antiquated, anti-science, anti-Bible doctrine only damages their own flock, but to back down from it would expose the fact that they know it. They'd rather keep perpetuating the evil than admit they could in anyway be wrong”

    If Dr. Peck is right, that is the summary of it. From my experience being there, these are men very focused on righteousness, even their ultimate goal of perfection. They cannot accept the reality that their predecessors made mistakes that harmed people, nor that their personal journey toward perfect righteousness hurt anyone. To make a changes in policy would require that admission. Unacceptable!!!

    OR! They could blame God- “It was not His time to reveal that truth”.

    Jst2laws

  • JT
    JT

    I will summarize how Dr. Peck explains as for as my memory serves me. He explains that evil people, for fear of admitting they took a wrong course way back in life,(in this case WT history) are dedicated to building and preserving an image of goodness or perfection. This image must be preserved at all cost to hide not just the imperfection that exist, not just the harm they have caused, but the evil of not having changed the policies a long time ago. Their conscience can not stand the reality of what they have done and what they are, so when confronted with their own faults they lie, justify, or blame others. (Really, this is in the book) Some how they must appear to have either
    (1) Done the right thing or
    (2) The good they are doing is hidden by someone else’s evil.

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    DEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEp

    NICE POINTS

  • outnfree
    outnfree

    Just2,

    I picked Dr. Peck's book off a library shelf a couple of years ago and put it back down after reading the flyleaves because I thought it would be too painful.

    At the time I was dealing with my sociopathic nephew whose daughter I am raising, and I was not emotionally ready to even try to understand his [self-defeating, actually] behavior. (The only unselfish thing he ever did in his life was to send his daughter to our stable home.)

    So it is very interesting to me to hear you summarize People of the Lie and to hear you agree with Stephanus' conclusion that the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses is actually perpetuating evil rather than being honest enough to admit they could in anyway be wrong -- and even being willing to blame God at times as you pointed out!!!

    I know it has been very difficult for you to come to such a conclusion, having read your posts here and on H2O and realizing how desperately you had hoped for change from within.

    For me, it only took reading Crisis of Conscience to recognize the sheer wickedness of the "anointed" in Brooklyn. Perhaps I had enough real-life "training" recognizing the type: my nephew who always managed to find someone else to blame for making him sell drugs, shoplift, abuse drugs, beat girlfriends, etc., ad nauseum, while insisting to his family that he was really "a good person".
    He even has his parole officer convinced of that. Excellent manipulator he is, and so are the men who call themselves faithful and discreet but are neither.

    My feeling is that the ones who recognize the corruption at Bethel and abhor it are the ones who leave. This means that the ones who stay on gradually become inured to the corruption, because they have the kind of personality that can file unpleasant realities into tiny corners of the mind. As the unpleasant realities mount they either crack or just make that file box expand as they justify their inaction to themselves.

    I think most of us here of the rank & file probably have some experience with trying to do just that with the things that struck us as wrong: bury them into our subconscious. But eventually we were the types who could not stand the hypocrisy. It damaged our psyches and some of us also manifested physical symptoms. So we have left, if not yet officially because of family circumstances, then emotionally we have gone.

    Some of the nicest brothers I know went off to Bethel and then left as soon as they had their two years in. They were like returning war veterans - reluctant to discuss their service years. So who remain? Over time it is those in each crop of Bethelite newbies who can put up with the obvious hypocrisy who remain. Eventually making a more and more calloused organization that is less and less likely to admit its heinous errors.

    The Governing Body will NEVER beg forgiveness in my opinion. But we can all do what we can on a personal level to try to bring them and the entire EVIL [SLAVE?] entity down, freeing the Friends from life-endangering dogma, and soul-robbing doctrines.

    outnfree

  • Farkel
    Farkel

    jst2laws,

    I read the Road Less Traveled fifteen years ago and People of the Lie about three years ago.

    The case he handled where the parents gave their youngest son a rifle for Christmas (or his bithday, I forget) had my blood boiling. As I'm sure you recall from the book, that youngest son's older brother had committed suicide with a rifle not long before that. If those who are doubting that their parents were evil for doing such a thing so soon after their other child had committed suicide with a rifle, you may doubt no longer: the parents gave the youngest son the SAME rifle his brother used to claim his life. When questioned by Dr. Peck about the kind of a message they were delivering to their living son, they didn't see anything wrong with what they did.

    THAT is evil. PURE evil.

    Farkel

  • jst2laws
    jst2laws

    JT
    Because I like your posts, “DEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEp” is a great compliment. Thanks.
    Jst2laws

  • jst2laws
    jst2laws

    Outnfree
    >”Over time it is those in each crop of Bethelite newbies who can put up with the obvious hypocrisy who remain. Eventually making a more and more calloused organization that is less and less likely to admit its heinous errors.”

    I agree. I do know, however, there are still some good men there, some friends from 25 years ago. Either they have been corrupted by the environment by now, or they are desperate to tow the line for fear of getting booted at their age. An old friend who went through “hell” with me stood up to Knorr and the entire heirarchy in the 70’s but he now ignores any allusion I make to problems in the org. Having survived the purge in 1980 who dares to speak up now. I wonder if there was a “safe house” for them to flee to if they all spoke up, guaranteed food and housing, if the safe house would be flooded.

    I liked your response. Honors to you for rescuing your nephew’s daughter.

    Jst2laws

    editted fore speling

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