A new ruling from a Madrid court supports that the Jehovah's Witnesses can be called an "extremist and destructive sect"

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    A new ruling from a Madrid court supports that the Jehovah's Witnesses can be called an "extremist and destructive sect"

    MC | EFENEWS10.01.2024 - 16:51H
    The former adept Gabriel Pedrero was denounced for publishing that "they have blood on their hands."
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    A judge has issued a second ruling that endorses, under the umbrella of freedom of expression , the criticism expressed by the Spanish Association of Victims of Jehovah's Witnesses towards the religious confession, in this case by one of its members, who He refers to it as an " extremist and destructive sect ."

    In the sentence, sent this Wednesday to the media, Judge Raquel Chacón, head of the Court of First Instance number 6 of Torrejón de Ardoz, pronounces in the same sense in which she already did in a resolution published last month December, which was celebrated as "historic" by the victims.

    In this case, the lawsuit was directed against Gabriel Pedrero , delegate of the victims' association in Madrid and administrator of the entity's social networks, who published messages on his personal profile in which he criticized various aspects of the confession to which he belonged. since his childhood.

    Among other things, he accused the religion of having "blood on its hands" , both for the deaths supposedly caused by preventing blood transfusions and for the suicides caused by " the stress, anxiety and depression caused " by belonging to this religion. community.

    Pedrero, 36, has also filed a lawsuit against the organization in which he claims to have suffered abuse from an elder (priest) from the age of 12 to 16 and is awaiting trial . "At the time, I did not dare to report because they teach us that the holy spirit of Jehovah is the one who appoints the elders and I was afraid of disobeying him , but I also knew that I was breaking his rules with what was happening," he said in a report at 20 minutes .

    In it, Pedrero recounted the psychological consequences he suffered after his life in the Jehovah's Witnesses. At the age of 15, he was diagnosed with borderline personality disorder due to "the accumulation of things experienced." "He was only thinking about taking my life," he stated, while commenting that when he decided to leave the community the elders recommended his father, a ministerial servant (one step away from becoming an elder), to throw him out. home. He didn't do it because of his health problems. "I lived with him and it was horrible. They punished me with social death ."

    Precisely, in the reported publications of Pedrero, the young man alluded to the cover-up of crimes that is practiced within the confession, as in the case of sexual abuse, the "social death" to which those who are expelled are subjected or the impediment that is placed on the faithful so that they do not pursue university studies .

    For their part, the Jehovah's Witnesses considered this content "degrading and insulting", which is why they requested the withdrawal of the comments, the cessation of their dissemination and compensation of 15,000 euros for an illegitimate interference with their right to honor.

    Ten testimonies from ex-adepts

    Faced with these accusations, the judge relies on up to ten testimonies from former followers who testified at the trial along the same lines as Pedrero and concludes that his criticisms are not "mere rumors, suspicions, intuitions or simple opinions of a third party." foreign to confession", but rather " they are based on their own direct experience ".

    Regarding the description of "extremist and destructive sect" that Pedrero makes on several occasions in his published messages, the judge considers this expression "truthful, which does not mean that it is true."

    "Many inflexible behaviors have been revealed , rigid demands of the rules regardless of their consequences, which usually cause damage, destroy families or threaten the mental health of those who have been their recipients," he argues.

    For all these reasons, it is considered that the criticisms analyzed are legitimate and are protected by the right to freedom of expression, so they do not entail interference in the right to honor of Jehovah's Witnesses.

    The judge who signs this ruling is the same one who issued, last December, another resolution that responded to a lawsuit, in this case against the association as a whole, and in which she already endorsed the accusations made by the entity and the use of the term "sect" to refer to religion.

    In total, Jehovah's Witnesses have filed a total of four lawsuits against the association or some of its members.

    The first of all ended with a ruling by the Court of 1st Instance number 1 of Torrejón de Ardoz (Madrid), which in this case did condemn the secretary of the association, Enrique Carmona , to pay 5,000 euros.

    Although the judge endorsed many of the words that had offended the religious, he did consider that the words "dangerous sect" and "the worst of the sects" to refer to the confession were " clearly disproportionate and manifestly insulting" and represented an illegitimate interference. in the right to honor.

    Beyond the appeals to the sentences filed by both parties, the trial is pending as a result of the latest lawsuit, filed before the Court of 1st Instance number 5 of Torrejón de Ardoz, against the president of the association, Israel Flórez .

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    From El Mundo https://elmundo.es/espana/2024/01/10/659d8ca521efa0b32a8b45a6.html (Google Translation)

    "SPAIN New blow to the Jehovah's Witnesses: a judge says that their rules threaten "the mental health" and "destroy families" of former followers Justice acquits a former believer who accused the cult of having "hands stained with blood", keeping its followers in a "cage" and being a "company inclined to money", and condemns the confession to costs

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    (Caption: Gabriel Pedrero, former Jehovah's Witness, photographed in front of the Carabanchel Kingdom Hall where he used to attend as a follower.)

    The attitude of some of the rectors of the Jehovah's Witnesses "could incite hatred." It is "truthful" to call them a "sect." The "rigidity" of its norms "destroys families" and threatens "the mental health" of those who have abandoned the creed, through the so-called "social death," an "isolation" ordered by the leadership.

    And classifying the cult as a "company only inclined to money," or saying that "they practice an ideology more typical of the Middle Ages," is again "truthful." Critics of this religion, which groups around 120,000 faithful in Spain, according to their own figures, do not say so.

    This is said by the judge who has just condemned the confession, perfectly legal in Spain since 1973, to the costs of the proceedings that it itself opened against Gabriel Pedrero, a former faithful who, upon leaving the "sect," as he calls it, he publicly criticized it as "harmful" and "destructive."

    The confession then denounced him for, supposedly, violating its right to honor, and the judge of the Court of First Instance 6 of Torrejón de Ardoz (Madrid) now asserts, in an appealable but historic decision because it addresses the limits of religious freedom, that in no way: the cult, Judge Raquel Chacón says, is a legal religion and recognized as having notorious roots in Spain, but also all the negative things that Pedrero attributes to it.

    The former follower, 36, was denounced by the Witnesses after writing on his Facebook wall that it had taken him "five years" to "deprogram" his mind and rebuild his life outside the "cage" of Jehovah.

    He also accused the religion of having "its hands stained with blood from different suicides: the collective ones for not allowing medical treatment with blood, and the suicides caused by stress, anxiety and depression caused by being locked in the Watchtower cage [in reference to the headquarters of the cult, located in New York, United States], the religious company that is behind the regulations and ideology of the Middle Ages that they are forced to follow," he noted.

    He also asserted: “We cannot be influenced by a company that is only inclined to money. There are more and more millionaires and their followers are poorer in every sense. They cancel them as people without being able to think or decide freely."

    The judge now says that this does not in any way violate its right to honor and that he is protected by the defendant's freedom of expression, and thus dismisses the requests for compensation made by the Witnesses themselves, who requested 15,000 euros in fines, and even the Prosecutor's Office itself, which also asked for a sentence for Pedrero, and to compensate for his alleged damage with 2,000 euros for the Jehovah's Witnesses.

    Judge Chacón has taken almost a year to hand down the sentence, which EL MUNDO is reporting for the first time, practically the same time that she took to deliver her decision a month ago, in the same sense. Then, she protected the right of the Spanish Association of Victims of Jehovah's Witnesses to call itself such in the face of another lawsuit from the cult itself for alleged violation of its right to honor.

    Both that procedure, in which the magistrate allowed critics to call the religion a "destructive sect," and that of Gabriel Pedrero, now also victorious against the confession, became true exposures of both positions, with a cascade of testimonies from both parties and the magistrate, at some moments, crying at the harshness of the statements.

    Pedrero has always claimed to have suffered the worst stigmas of the cult's victims: sexual abuse in childhood inflicted by one of his priests — for which there is a pending procedure — homosexuality repressed institutionally within the confession, and social ostracism after his departure, with total loss of his family environment.

    Now the judge assumes that homosexual practices are grounds for expulsion in the cult, that apostates are called "mentally ill" with "mandatory guidelines," and even that Juan Ramón Ferreiro, the professor in Ecclesiastical Law who intervened in the declaration of "notorious roots" in 2006 as deputy director general of Religious Freedom of the Ministry of Justice, he would have done so "without taking into account the consequences of the expulsion" and also without even reading the book Shepherd the Flock of God, which dictates how the hierarchy of Jehovah's Witnesses should discipline their followers."

  • NotFormer
    NotFormer

    Spain: 1, Watchtower bull(y): Nil

    ¡Ole!

  • Vidiot
    Vidiot

    So, is the WT still tax-exempt in Spain?

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