by TheApostleAK 7 Replies latest jw friends
This is a spinoff from the "effective ministry" thread.
Are the eligibility rules for baptism of a male candidate more tighter/tougher/stricter than for a female candidate??
I've noticed in the 1.5 years I was a JW of situations where a woman was given the green light and a male was knocked back even though they both were working fulltime. (They both were consistent in FS and both participated in the meetings).
Anyone else experienced that?
ApostleAK,
Something is wrong with you. I wander did they put you under the water to long whren they baptise you?
ApostleAK,
Are you insinuating that there are rare instances in which Cows are actually treated better than Bulls? maybe elders just feel bad for the females because it was a female that was stupid enough to talk to a snake. All hell broke loose from there.
welcome back.
peace,
somebody
ApostleAK,
You bring up an important point. Since the bruddas are potentially in line for positions of responsibility in the congregation, counting up field service hours, counting up propaga...um, magazines sold, doing roving microphone duty, spying on their "friends" in the middle of the night, distributing gossi...er, keeping the congregation clean enough for pederasts, keeper of the key - the church key used in memory of pre-poptop beer cans, and other positions of vast importance, it is only fitting that these glorious ones, these shinning assembleges of corpsuckles need, nay are required to pass more rigorous tests than the mere sisters.
After all, sisters only bear and raise children for the pederasts, run a household on the scant few hours they aren't at the KH, cook, clean, paint, mow the lawn, shop, change piston rings in the family car and other light auto maintenance, clean septic tanks, and all that other superficial stuff while their husbands are off on important intrusi...,um judicial matters. They can be allowed to slide by with only a scant knowledge of that "love your neighbor as yourself" lightweight's law, but the brudder must know all about the "deeper things of God" like by all means discovering what kind of underwear the sister was wearing when she fornicated the ears off some unsuspecting, wholly innocent elder. You know the one, the elder with the pistol-grip ears.
OF COURSE the sisters have it easier to be approved for baptism. What are you thinking?
If you need any further enlightenment on this issue brother AK, I will with my usual modesty and reserve allow you to tap into my vast reservoirs of total insight upon the workings and inner manifestations of the WTB&TS. I may even tell you what I know about playing the stock market, using the Urim and Thummin.
Francoise, charter member of the Modest Know-It-All Class.
Somebody I guess according to Francoise being a cow has some advantages. lol
AK,
I never really looked at this before. Everyone I knew had no problems getting baptized. They usually were pretty confident and announced when they would be, such as, at the next assembly or in the summer DC. I can honestly say I don't remember anyone being turned down, or they kept it quiet if they were refused. But I guess it does happen, there must have been alot of warning lights though for the Bros to turn down a potential victim.
wendy
There are few rules but a lot if subjective decisions. It all depends on who you are and who likes you. I remember a "brother" in a neighboring congregation who owned his own business, was wealthy, spoke well and had a glamorous ex-model wife. He got baptized in 6 months of studying had his experience discussed/interviewed at the same CA. The next CA he had a part in a demonstration, was given lots of assignements in the cong, his 3rd talk was a number 4. He entertained the elders and families at his house. I had relatives in the same cong and they were all sick at the way he treated. Fast forward a year, the guy meets another woman and dumps his wife and gets DF'd. (He's never seen again) A lot in his cong were glad to see the back of him, like all the regular loyal brothes who never progressed from Bible Readings.
The point is he bought his baptism and all the special treatment.
Thirdson
'To avoid criticism, say nothing, do nothing, be nothing'
hi wendy.
I never really looked at this before. Everyone I knew had no problems getting baptized. They usually were pretty confident and announced when they would be, such as, at the next assembly or in the summer DC. I can honestly say I don't remember anyone being turned down, or they kept it quiet if they were refused. But I guess it does happen, there must have been alot of warning lights though for the Bros to turn down a potential victim.
I don't recall anyone being turned down for baptism either. As a matter of fact, I don't remember any of us kids (ages 14-17) ever ASKING to be baptized either. All of us were approached and then pressured to do it. It was pressure like this, " Don't you think it's time for you to think about baptism?...You don't want to serve Jehovah?...The new system will be here shortly,,,you should be baptized.....You know, so-and-so is getting baptized and she is younger than you are. She is a mature christian. She sets a good example." That kind of pressure get to ya.
"potential victim" is right! you speak the truth! The brothers who get turned down don't realize that it's they who have the advantage.
I DO happen to know a young brother who was turned down for baptism...he was probably 20 or so at the time, and they didnt tell him he couldnt get baptized until the day BEFORE he was supposed to be dunked. He was angry and mortified because he had relatives coming to it and everything. I dont imagine people let others know when this happens very often. For obvious reasons. He was so furious with the elders. Which, of course, only made them think THEY did the right thing by holding him back.
