Have 3 buildings disappeared from the new Italian Bethel under construction since 2019? What happened to them?

by LaFrancia 9 Replies latest watchtower scandals

  • LaFrancia
    LaFrancia

    If anyone knows more, a comment is welcome. If you visit the official JW website and search for Bologna it will take you to some articles and 1 video. The site shows a building completed in 2020 with 41 apartments, there is a photo with alleged Bethelites looking out from the balconies and waving. Where have you been ?

    They were also completing other similar buildings. It is said that the apartments were greater than the number of Italian Bethelites which are around 300. In 2020 the site stated that thanks to Divine blessing the new Bethel would be ready in 2023.

    In another video, Brother Andreotti of the Italian Branch Committee says that thanks to Divine blessing the new Bethel would be completed in 2024 and sooner than they expected!

    We are more than halfway through 2024, construction sites seem to be at a standstill in Bologna. The buildings disappeared from the radar. What are they telling us? Have they sold the buildings? Did they rent the apartments?

    P.s. In Bologna, mini apartments are selling like hot cakes. Many university students are looking for and want this type of accommodation!

  • wannaexit
    wannaexit

    It sounds like they ran out of money, I was quickly reading on the Italian blog that contribution boxes have been set up exclusively for the Bologna project.

    Here is the proffered lofty branch. Looks like the Italians want to compete with Warwick

    https://polonannicosta.it./

  • Journeyman
    Journeyman

    I wonder if the Italy branch is also going to end up getting the kind of downsizing that the Britain branch got?

    Originally, there was talk of a whole printery and much more accommodation at the Chelmsford complex when it was first announced and the early architects' plans released. But by the time it was completed it had been much scaled down.

    From what I can see, the most recent update regarding the Italy branch was in the video LaFrancia mentioned, made in 2022 (from 2:30 to 4:00) - URL broken up to prevent hotlinking:

    JW dot org /en/library/videos/#en/mediaitems/VODPgmEvtAnnMtg/pub-jwb-100_11_VIDEO

    There are three intriguing things I learned from it:
    1) That originally the branch was intending to use volunteer Witnesses in the construction (as is usually done), but for some unstated reason they went with secular construction companies instead.
    2) Although COVID inevitably interrupted the work, it is said that it only stopped construction completely for one month. So why has the project taken so long?
    2) That the original finish date was to be the end of 2023 (in previous updates of 2019 and 2020), but now the latest finish date is said to be the end of 2024.

    So why did they go with the additional costs of a secular construction company?
    And why has the project taken so long, with at least a year being added to the completion date?

    wannaexit is probably right about money running out, especially as they went to outside construction companies rather than use their pool of free labour. But knowing the lack of transparency from the Org, Italian Witnesses will probably not get satisfactory answers to any questions they might have.
  • Journeyman
    Journeyman

    Ok, I checked the site wannaexit linked to, and there is this updated info (Google-translated from Italian as I sadly do not read the language):

    The building, previously owned by the Revenue Agency, was purchased by the Christian Congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses in December 2017.

    The first activities carried out were the preparation and safety of the construction site, as well as the strip-out of the building itself.

    From the structural examination of the construction, dating back to the mid-1990s, it was immediately clear that it did not comply with the most recent national and Community anti-seismic regulations.

    To align the building with community and national seismic regulations as well as modern best practices, we used a company specialized in anti-seismic adaptation. (I suppose that explains why an outside secular company was required - sounds like the Org got conned by the seller into buying a non-compliant building!)

    The completion of the works is expected by the end of 2025. (Yet ANOTHER year added on?!)

    The new construction will host offices, multipurpose rooms, a canteen with kitchen and various departments to support the work of the hundreds of volunteers expected from all over the world.

    The rest of the site has this information:

    The ownership of the former Sabiem area was acquired by the Christian Congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses on 30 June 2021. The municipal council then approved the project on 19 July 2021.

    The then deputy mayor Valentina Orioli stated: “What we have approved is a perfect urban regeneration operation that will allow the redevelopment of an abandoned industrial area located in an inhabited area, making many public facilities available to the community.

    This brings to a close a complex story that originates from the bankruptcy of Sabiem. With the acquisition of the property by the Christian Congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses it was finally possible to compensate the workers who had lost their jobs. I want to acknowledge the new ownership for having worked seriously and with the aim of closing this important agreement."

    The project involves the construction of three 10-story buildings that will serve as homes for hundreds of Jehovah's Witness volunteers. Together with the residences, a public park will also be created which will have an area of ​​approximately 16,000 thousand square metres.

    In this area, two public green areas will be created, a cycle path and two car parks. A place of worship will also be built next to the Municipal Multipurpose Hall.

    The project involves the construction of a Municipal Multipurpose Hall of approximately 250 square metres.

    The construction will be fully available to the Borgo Panigale-Reno district. It will be rebuilt according to the original model and great attention will be given to the issue of environmental sustainability.

    Vincenzo Naldi, president of the Borgo Panigale-Reno district at the time the agreement was drafted, explained: “I am very satisfied with this agreement which presents important contents for the neighbourhood. In particular, I like to say that the building for public use will be dedicated to activities for teenagers in a context in which we are creating a system for our young people together with the structure already open in via Martinelli in collaboration with the Golinelli Foundation and with the future structure which will be made possible by the agreement for the relocation of Sintexcal. I also underline an extra provision of parking and the valorisation, through the creation of a cycle path, of the lime trees that characterize part of this area".

    Let's see if the final development really does have all these buildings in the plan, or if any get cut back.

  • KerryKing
    KerryKing

    Weren't they meant to create something similar in New York or at least fund it?

    WT made promises and never delivered.

  • DesirousOfChange
    DesirousOfChange

    Can you say DOWNSIZING?

    WTS is downsizing everywhere. They know they are under attack, but they foolishly believe that it is in fulfillment of their ridiculous interpretation of scripture where their God will swoop in and rescue them and then destroy their persecutors.

    And they will keep on wondering why there is no rescue.

  • a watcher
    a watcher

    Watchtower won't be rescued but Jehovah's people will be.

  • Beth Sarim
    Beth Sarim

    ""WT made promises and never delivered"

    Aint that a first.

  • LaFrancia
    LaFrancia

    The Municipality of Bologna got rid of 1 disused building and a former elevator factory that had been closed for many years. Did Jehovah bless them instead of Italian JWs?

  • Vidiot
    Vidiot

    DesirousOfChange- “…They know they are under attack, but they foolishly believe that it is in fulfillment of their ridiculous interpretation of scripture where their God will swoop in and rescue them and then destroy their persecutors…”

    If the WTS is “under attack”, they’ve brought it on themselves. A self-fulfilling “prophecy” ain’t the real thing.

    And it’s ironic AF, considering that very same scripturual interpretation of theirs has “Babylon the Great” attacked first.

    They even reiterated this on JW-dot-org just last month.

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