Quit Picking On Us; We're Faithful Prophets

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  • onacruse
    onacruse

    JEHOVAH ’S faithful people on earth publicly emphasized the importance of the dates 1914 and 1918 and 1925. They had much to say about these dates and what would come to pass, but not all they predicted came to pass. The predictions, as to the dates, were correct, but what came to pass could not be fully seen in advance. The failure to come to pass of some of the things predicted has afforded Satan’s agents in “Christendom,” particularly the clergy and the “man of sin,” an opportunity to ridicule and reproach the faithful servants of the Most High God, and to say of and concerning them and their published statements: ‘All their visions and predictions have failed; and such proves that they are all wrong, and that all their predictions for the future must fail.’ This the clergy use to turn the people away from God and his truth. Such was foreshadowed by what God said to Ezekiel: “Son of man, what is that proverb that ye have in the land of Israel, saying, The days are prolonged, and every vision faileth?’ (Ezek. 12:22)

    To be sure, no man can say precisely what day or year Jehovah’s battle at Armageddon will be fought, but it is easy to be seen that now conditions among the people are such as to indicate that a great crisis is near. Clergymen and politicians have predicted and continue to predict great success and prosperity for their man-made schemes. They speak against Jehovah’s witnesses. As to those who seriously and boldly continue obeying Almighty God, ecclesiastical and political “strong men” now say in substance that all such persons are ‘weak in the head,’ and that it will be many days before any final calamity befalls “Christendom,”

    From the 1938 Watchtower, page 269.

    Rather similar to what the WTS said after 1975:

    *** w80 3/15 p. 17 Choosing the Best Way of Life ***

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    In modern times such eagerness, commendable in itself, has led to attempts at setting dates for the desired liberation from the suffering and troubles that are the lot of persons throughout the earth. With the appearance of the book Life Everlasting—in Freedom of the Sons of God, and its comments as to how appropriate it would be for the millennial reign of Christ to parallel the seventh millennium of man’s existence, considerable expectation was aroused regarding the year 1975. There were statements made then, and thereafter, stressing that this was only a possibility. Unfortunately, however, along with such cautionary information, there were other statements published that implied that such realization of hopes by that year was more of a probability than a mere possibility. It is to be regretted that these latter statements apparently overshadowed the cautionary ones and contributed to a buildup of the expectation already initiated.

    Yeah, weak in the head. LOL

    Craig

  • unique1
    unique1

    Well, I'm confused. Reckon they could have used more double talk there?

  • refiners fire
    refiners fire

    there were other statements published that implied that such realization of hopes by that year was more of a probability than a mere possibility

    Well, they purged the writing department, and chopped that apostate Ray Franz, so the publishing of expectation generating statements wont happen again. The brothers are safe now.

  • refiners fire
    refiners fire

    not all they predicted came to pass. The predictions, as to the dates, were correct, but what came to pass could not be fully seen in advance. The failure to come to pass of some of the things predicted has afforded Satan’s agents in “Christendom,” particularly the clergy and the “man of sin,” an opportunity to ridicule and reproach the faithful servants of the Most High God,

    Ona. I see you selectively highlight certain words, taking them out of context to give an impression that the brothers in the writing department never intended to convey. Lol.

    Isnt it interesting, the messages that are buried within the text. Hidden within all the excess verbosity.

  • RunningMan
    RunningMan

    That was hillarious. Imagine, the clergy have used the Witness errors and failures to ridicule the "truth".

    Don't they realize, that if they are in error, then it isn't the "truth"? Someone should buy those people a dictionary.

  • refiners fire
    refiners fire

    "if they are in error, then it isn't the "truth"

    Brother. It IS the "truth". It is "present truth". Truth as understood at this moment in history. It is as close to 'truth' as imperfect men can behold. The Lord does not lie, but never forget, He deals with imperfect men. His prophets are imperfect men, and they misapprehend His spirit messages as he communicates to them. Their enthusiasm. Their great zeal. Their earnest desire to see an end to wickedness as soon as possible, taints their understanding of His communications to them. They are mere imperfect men and, to a degree, they 'see' what they wish to see. Jehovah forgives them for this because they are very earnest for the Lord and long for his coming. These imperfect men do not finally SEE until the prophetic events are fullfilled in the real world. Then they see their misapprehensions clearly.

    I hope this clarifies things for you.

  • Maverick
    Maverick

    The WT truth is written in silly puddy instead of stone. That way it can be stretched and twisted and folded into whatever shape they need. Or they can roll it up and 'erase' its writings and pen something different. Maverick

  • onacruse
    onacruse

    Ah, and here's another catch:

    JEHOVAH by his Word has informed man as to what is right and what is wrong, and the sincere and honest man is anxious to find out what is right. God also designates what is the proper time to do certain things. The attempt to do even those things at an improper time or in a way contrary to God’s commandment is wrong. Jehovah commands those who serve him to be diligent in seeking knowledge of righteousness that man may walk in the right way. The man with a pure heart fears God; that is, he fears to do anything contrary to Jehovah’s appointed way. The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge.” (Prov. 1:7) The man who does not believe on and who does not fear God cannot acquire knowledge of righteousness. For this reason the men who possess what is called “worldly wisdom,” and who are wise in their own conceits, are foolish and their so-called “wisdom” is foolishness in the sight of God. (1 Cor. 1:20-25) Deliberate wrongdoers have no fear of God: “The fear of the Lord is to hate evil,...and the evil way.” (Prov. 8:13) Any violation of God’s law is evil. Knowledge of the requirements of God’s law is necessary for those who desire to please him.

    (w 12/1/38, page 355)

    So then, I see here 3 possibilities:

    1) The WTS has no knowledge of the requirements of God's law, and therefore cannot please him, or

    2) The WTS has attempted to interpret prophecy at an improper time, and is therefore wrong, or

    3) The WTS has violated God's law, and is therefore evil.

    How about, maybe, all 3 of the above?

    Craig

    PS: RF, in deference to you, I've selectively highlighted portions of my own statements out of context. LOL...you crack me up.

    PPS: Note that this statement in the Tower was made just a couple of months after the first quote; they stand self-condemned. I wonder how much of their strident acrimony and obvious self-contradiction is a direct result of their not thinking the world was going to last long enought for them to get caught at their stupid game.

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