New baptism contract

by resolute Bandicoot 8 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • resolute Bandicoot
    resolute Bandicoot

    Hi all, a little while back we had a thread on the topic a new baptism contract, specifically question Two, in that the "in association with gods spirit directed organisation" has been dropped. We had two circuit level baptisms in Australia since the story started getting around where the old wording was still being used and I was starting to think that it was just a rumor.

    The Melbourne international convention this passed weekend used the new contract, in which the claim of spirit direction is rolled back. I would share here if I could post a MP3 file.

    What will be next 1914 swept under the carpet?

    RB

  • smiddy3
    smiddy3

    This religion changes their mind on whatever they have said previously more times than a person changes their underwear.

    They lie ,re-invent ,lie, about their early history

    And they will continue to do so simply because when you start out with a lie ,you just have to keep lying to rationalise / justify your previous lies.

  • alanv
    alanv

    They say whatever they need to, so as to keep going and keep members. Very often they will say one thing and then when it suits them say the very opposite.

  • StephaneLaliberte
    StephaneLaliberte

    "Spirite directed".They keep using that word. I do not think it means what they think it means.

  • truthlover123
    truthlover123

    For all the changes they have made- generation, Gog of Magog, etc. - all supposedly under spirit guided inspiration, now seems that that spirit has "stopped" directing??

    How can that be? Every magazine, every brochure, every teaching, every baptism, every hall dedication - all spirit directed??? It was there and now its not? Just recently, historically, all elder positions ( child abuse issues)and ms positions (child abuse issues)were supposed to be by holy spirit - not to mention Co's- some df for child abuse, Do's= now extinct.

    So when did this spirit directed wording start and now ends, If ever present? Now, as the recent C A issues are showing, how did they get appointed in the first place?

  • truth_b_known
    truth_b_known
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    I promise you the Holy Spirit never did either for the Watchtower Society, its teaching, writings, or decisions.
  • truthlover123
    truthlover123

    TBK

    Yes they did create- a multi billion dollar empire full of loyal do bees - much like the Amway system. Get new ones in to keep the money flowing.. There is nothing more hypnotizing than the hope of everlasting life- faith and jump on the fast moving chariot.

    This organization operates along the lines of Scientology - so close, so close- the only difference is they invoked God into it all and promoted the Spirit to get it done. Most people do have a "God" gene so they are easy to persuade, looking for something better.

  • staypuft
    staypuft

    So what is the new actual wording?

    Because when the elders came a-calling wanting to push me over the edge, that was one of the two "gotcha" questions they asked. Something like "do you believe that the GovBody is God's spirit directed organization?"

  • Biahi
    Biahi

    Stephanie L, I think the “spirit” that directs the GB is MacAllens scotch!!

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