You know you might have a problem when

by Zep 7 Replies latest jw friends

  • Zep
    Zep

    2 dubs come to your door and your've just been reading some stuff on 1975...and then you suddenly think they might be a sign from God or something.I laughed it off, but cant believe i thought it though....it was only for a sec that i held the thought, but jeez!???
    They were pushin these little pamphlets, you know the ones! ...the ones with all the cute animals on the cover and some kid in the middle of them playing with a lion or a bear!
    I could have argued with the poor guy, but he was too meek and polite...and i dont think i'd get any pleasure out of disrupting his faith...he seemed pretty timid, very effeminate...i just joked him a little and let him go!

  • waiting
    waiting

    Zep, you're a srange bird - but I like your humor. Kinda strange.......

  • Zep
    Zep

    I do write some rubbish...Actually,I'm pretty normal in real life believe it or not Waiting.But this is the NET...i can afford to be stupid!, thats how i look at it!

  • Frenchy
    Frenchy

    Well, Zep, that is one commodity that a whole lot of people seem to be able to afford! . It was nice of you not to argue with the Witness. I think this says a lot about you. Thank you for being kind.

    -Seen it all, done it all, can't remember most of it-

  • Zep
    Zep

    I could have argued flat out with him frenchy, but it would have just been me flexing my intellectual ego...indulging in point scoring and nothing more, nothing would have been achieved.I could have instead asked a prying question, maybe that could have got him thinking a bit, but then again i just dont see it as my responsibility to de-covert someone since i'm very much an outsider in respect to JW's, i just didn't feel that gravity of responsibilty at that time...i was half asleep anyway.
    The WT, in an article i read a little while back stated that people are responsible to warn others of things even if the person recieving the warning might resent it...They were obviously justifying their door to door work in saying this, but you can flip that argument around and apply it to yourself.
    How serious do you take your own religion Frenchy, what do you and all the others here really think of it???
    I mean, what kind of responibility do you feel personnally when you see a newbie come to KH...If i saw someone like myself being fed the WT i think i'd want to give them the otherside of the argument?.I have a friend in Melbourne currently, hes been taught that the generaton of 1914 wont pass away, last time i checked he felt he'd found the truth....he's moved but as soon as i find out his latest address i feel i should send him some articles!
    Do you guys still go door to door here or what?, how do you deal with the fact that your pushing something that your dont neccessarily believe to someone who is possibly quite impressionable and easily lead?

  • waiting
    waiting

    Hey, Zeb,

    I know you directed this comment to Frenchy - but first come, first served - and he's late.

    For me - I stopped going in service (speaking about God and his organization) when my husband and I had a very serious, very expensive situation with our body of elders - and the WTBTS truly, completely, ingnored the really messy situation. And they were completely informed.

    I felt that if they did not care if we were "stumbled" out of the truth, or that an entire body of elders committed legal & ethical fraud, then it was time for me to reconsider my JW standing. It had just never occurred to me that the WTBTS was anything but above board.

    It would be hypocritical, IMO, to encourage anyone to do anything but read their own Bibles, formulate their own opinions, and read anything else they want.

  • Zep
    Zep

    It just annoyed me after he came the door....i would get no pleasure out of trying to break the guy.But since i've had time to think about it somemore, it really annoys me that he's out there pushing this stuff to people like me.....and some are going to buy it because they dont know any better, and haven't read the otherside.This WT stuff is a mess.
    What Do you actually get anything out of going to meetings Waiting anyway?, i suppose you have the social side of it, but do you beleive any of their stuff...do you sit there and twiddle your thumbs everytime the guy up the front starts talking.I suppose you have the big DF hanging over your head, and thats whats keeping you there, that and the fact that its been a habit for much ofyour life???...or am i wrong, do you actually get something out of it?.I think if i sat in a KH now, i'd get really pi**ed off real quick!
    You know, i actually defended the WT in a few posts when i first came on to h20...why??? i have no idea.All this reading so called "apostate" literature is really starting to annoy me big time, especially all the stuff about the false prophecies....the idea that they're out there preaching some altered version of history to people like me is really annoying!

    So anyway, how did your legal situation work out....i cant imagine a worse situation being squeezed between the society and a bunch of lawyers at the momment....must have been reeeeaaaallll bad.My father has dealing with lawyers at the moment, they charge through the nose, it cost him 13$ just to ring up and confirm an appointment....can you believe that!

  • Frenchy
    Frenchy

    Zep: Sorry about being late, my ‘puter is getting tempermental on me! Very pointed questions.

    How serious do you take your own religion Frenchy, what do you and all the others here really think of it???

    I can’t speak for anyone but myself. I took (past tense) it very seriously and I believed it to be the truth. I gradually came to understand that it was not divine light but interpretation from men who actually believe that they are relaying ‘truth’ from God to ‘his people’. I cannot say that I have ‘a religion’ at present.

    I mean, what kind of responibility do you feel personnally when you see a newbie come to KH...If i saw someone like myself being fed the WT i think i'd want to give them the otherside of the argument?.

    During the time I was totally committed and even during the time of my… what? …my indecision? I felt responsible to do my very best to teach that person all that I knew (or all that he/she was capable or wanting to know) because I believed it mean his/her eternal salvation. Later on, near the end, I was more reluctant to ‘inculcate the truth’ to the newbies. I stated here already that I was studying with a young man whom I like very much when I finally decided that I had to get out. During this study I tried to be very objective in the study, telling him what the WTS’s stand was on the matter and also giving him the ‘other side’ of the argument as well. I came to appreciate that I was not being objective at all because he saw me as a JW and surmised that the WTS’s side must be the true side otherwise why would I be one??? I turned the study over to someone else after a long and difficult deliberation with myself.
    As I have stated before, I am one of the few who actually likes field service. I don’t go anymore because I could not bring someone into this mess.
    Hey, waiting, this is for cutting in ahead of me:

    -Seen it all, done it all, can't remember most of it-

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