No need for Judicial Committees now!

by BoogerMan 3 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • BoogerMan
    BoogerMan

    For JW's who sin, just listen, obey, & be blessed by the current "slave's" direction from a few years ago.

    After all, they do speak for Jehovah & Christ, don't they? No need to to confess anything to Elders.

    w00 6/15 pp. 16-17 pars. 17-18 - "...should we not have faith in Jesus Christ as the living Head of the Christian congregation? (not the G.B? 😀) Is he not aware of what is happening in his own worldwide congregation? Should we not respect his way of handling the situation and recognize his ability to control matters? Really, ‘who are we to be judging our neighbor?’ Why not bring your concerns before Jehovah in your prayers?.....Those having spiritual discernment will wait on Jehovah to set things straight and administer whatever discipline may be needed in his own time and way."

    Elders - take note!!!

  • Vidiot
    Vidiot

    They’re making it harder and harder to disfellowship remove wayward members adherents for two reasons…

    a) …the courts are able to effectively demonstrate just how truly injurious and heavy-handed it is to individuals, and as such, it’s putting their charity status at serious risk, and…

    b) …the longer a disfellowshipped removed individual remains out (or, rather, the more heavy-handed the discipline has been), the less afraid they’ll be to start looking at “apostate” material on the Net, and the less likely they are to ever come back.

    The Org can no longer afford either.

  • Konagirl
    Konagirl

    Wow. Obviously, they have lost all respect for God handling the situation by their statement in the August 24,2024 , pg 25.

    And…they have song called “Shepherds – Gifts in Men”?

    “Help in our lives, Jehovah provides, Shepherds to tend his flock. By their example they serve as guides, Showing us how to walk.”

    Do these elders walk in the way of Christ, or in the way of men? Do they suffer persecution as he did? Are they treated as scum of the world as the apostles were treated? Do they only follow his teachings? Or are they exalted, honored, given privileges, titles, and obedience from all JWs, for following the doctrine of men? (2 Tim 3:12; Matt 5:12; 10:22; 24:9; John 16:2)

    And how are the anointed to be treated? They are to be humble, quiet, submissive, slaves of men. (2 Cor 11:20; Gal 1:10)

    Eph 4 -
    There is one body and one Spirit, just as you were called in one hope of your calling; 5 one Lord, one faith, one baptism; 6 one God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in [c]you all.

    7 But to each one of us grace was given according to the measure of Christ’s gift. 8 Therefore He says:

    “When He ascended on high,
    He led captivity captive,
    And gave gifts to men.”

    And He Himself gave some to be apostles, some prophets, some evangelists, and some pastors and teachers, 12 for the equipping of the saints for the work of ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ, 13 till we all come to the unity of the faith and of the knowledge of the Son of God, to a perfect man, to the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ; 14 that we should no longer be children, tossed to and fro and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the trickery of men, in the cunning craftiness of deceitful plotting, 15 but, speaking the truth in love, may grow up in all things into Him who is the head—Christ16 from whom the whole body, joined and knit together by what every joint supplies, according to the effective working by which every part does its share, causes growth of the body for the edifying of itself in love.”

    The “body of Christ” is the spiritual temple of God.

    Jesus answered and said to them, “Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.”

    20 Then the Jews said, “It has taken forty-six years to build this temple, and will You raise it up in three days?” 21 But He was speaking of the temple of His body.”

    And this “temple” is the holy priesthood, “living stones”, the “saints”, the anointed. (1 Pet 2:5,9; 1 Cor 3:16; Eph 2:20-22) They, are whom Jesus has given gifts to men. But their offerings of these gifts, has been taken away by a wicked slave and those whom these false prophets have chosen to be their mouthpiece of lies. (Mark 13:14; Matt 24:24-25,48-51; Rev 13:1-2)

    Representing the royal priesthood are appointed elders, who serve in positions of responsibility in congregations of Jehovah’s people around the earth. These men deserve our respect and wholehearted support, whether they are of the anointed or not. Why? Because, through his holy spirit, Jehovah has appointed the older men to their positions. (Hebrew 13:7,17) How can that be?” W02/8/1 pg 13

    It can’t be. Would God reject His own Son and the members of His Son’s spiritual body? Would God disregard His plan for building a spiritual temple in people, men and women, to serve Him, His Son and all of His future children in the Kingdom? Would He choose this corrupt organization bursting with vile deeds enacted against men, women, children, and His chosen anointed, over His own plan? (Rom 8:19-22; Gal 4:26-28; Rev 21:2-4)

    But the Wt. tells us all authority has been given to men that liars have chosen to support their corrupt organization/idol. (Rev 13:3-4;15-17)

    Rather than challenge their authority, we truly appreciate our hardworking elders! Their record of faithful service, often over many decades, inspires our trust.” W02/8/1 pg 13

    Okay, so the elders rule and are given the bogus right to judge, which cannot be challenged, not even by those God has spiritually chosen to serve the needs of His children. (Matt 28:18-20; John 21:17; 13:20; 1 Cor 6:1-4)

    Just reading the daily text for today is disgusting. “Jehovah and his organization” built with a body elders, rules. No mention whatsoever of Jesus Christ. "The more we get to know Jehovah, the more we will trust in him and the organization that he has provided to help us." - daily text

    Daniel 8:25 - “Through his cunning He shall cause deceit to prosper under his rule; And he shall exalt himself in his heart. He shall destroy many in their prosperity. He shall even rise against the Prince of princes;

    Against Jesus Christ, himself.

    But he shall be broken without human means.”

    1 Cor 3:16-17 – “Do you not know that you are the temple of God and that the Spirit of God dwells in you? 17 If anyone defiles the temple of God, God will destroy him. For the temple of God is holy, which temple you are.”

    2 Thess 2:3-4,8-10 - “Don’t let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the man doomed to destruction. 4 He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God’s temple,

    (Ruling over the anointed - “Representing the royal priesthood”.)

    “proclaiming himself to be God. And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will overthrow with the breath of his mouth and destroy by the splendor of his coming. 9 The coming of the lawless one will be in accordance with how Satan works. He will use all sorts of displays of power through signs and wonders that serve the lie, 10 and all the ways that wickedness deceives those who are perishing. They perish because they refused to love the truth and so be saved.”

    Rev 13:5-7 – “The beast was given a mouth to utter boasts and blasphemies. It was allowed to exercise authority for forty-two months. 6 It began to speak blasphemies against God: to blaspheme his name and his dwelling—those who dwell in heaven. 7 And it was permitted to wage war against the saints and to conquer them. It was also given authority over every tribe, people, language, and nation.”

    A challenge is a call to war. Wt and its leadership is playing with fire, and they will get burned. Jer 23:29; Rev 19:20

    I hope all elders, all JWs leave wickedness behind.

  • DesirousOfChange
    DesirousOfChange

    Psalm 3:5 -- Then I acknowledged my sin to you and did not cover up my iniquity. I said, “I will confess my transgressions to the LORD.” And you forgave the guilt of my sin.

    Confessing one's sins/transgressions to God gains one His forgiveness. Further, confessing only to God does not constitute a "cover up" of those sins.

    Confessing to elders is not about being forgiven. It is about being punished by their manmade rules.

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