by Sea Breeze 7 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
In this classic interview with John Ankerberg, Bill and Joan Cetnar expose many outlandish Watchtower claims. If you haven't seen this yet, you should. It is a major part of EX-JW history.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCwrMTFdEjI&t=709s&ab_channel=Mr.Alithea
Back in the 80s I wrote to him and argued deity doctrine with him. He was just like the rest in that he played connect the words. Jesus was called this and Jehovah was called the same, they must be the same. That is poor theology and scholarship.
That is poor theology and scholarship.
I don't think so. Sitting next to Bill throughout the interview is an actual biblical language scholar. None of the WT leadership has ever had a degree in the biblical languages, starting with Russell.
Bill was a Bethelite assigned to answer "Questions From Readers" in the Awake magazine that were sent in to Watchtower headquarters. Reminds me of others who did official research for the WT and ended up disgusted with their lies and had to leave to keep their sanity.
He covers an amazing scope of disinformation in this interview.
You can read the backstory of this amazing couple here.
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My parent’s choices cost them their home, brothers, sisters, mother, father, lands, and inheritance. [over one million dollars]
In one of my mother’s favorite passages of Scripture, Matthew 19:29 Jesus said,
“And everyone who has left houses or brothers or sisters or father or mother or children or lands, for my name’s sake, will receive a hundredfold and will inherit eternal life.”
Just curious but are they still alive.
Both have passed.
'Bill and Joan’s son (and our friend) Phil Cetnar sent us the eulogy which he gave at Joan’s funeral this past Monday. He gave us permission to include it a slightly edited version of what is an insider’s view of the impact of their choices:'
'When I was in my early teens, the four of us children were invited to dinner at Grandma and Grandpa’s. Not an unusual event, since even though my parents were shunned by her family all of their lives, they encouraged their children to have a relationship with their grandparents.
This night, however, we were presented with a momentous choice: we could remain believers in Christ and receive no inheritance from our grandparents or join Jehovah’s Witnesses and receive the inheritance that was denied to our parents.
I remember the utter disbelief I felt. I thought, “You want me to give up my eternal life for a farm?” I don’t remember my exact words, but we all declined the offer. I was beginning to realize why our discussions were fruitless. They valued something else more highly than truth.'
Add them to the long list of families that were divided by JWs.
I didn’t know they (the Cetnars) were both gone. They were wonderful, Christian people. R.I.P. 🙏😢
