From what I have noticed, is that both subjects, may well start out as logical debate but soon logic goes out the window and the 'debate' evolves into full blown argument.
I realise they are both serious subjects, but really, some people need to lighten up a little with their outlook on life. Life's too short (unless you're a JW)
cheeses (of the-ones-who-believe-Bush-should-have-surrendered-while-he-had-a-chance-class)