True Organization

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  • littleone
    littleone

    (Here is an article that Russell &c wrote the year 1884 in Zion's Watchtower):

    OUR NAME.
    New readers in all parts of the country are constantly inquiring:
    By what name do you call yourselves? Are you "Primitive
    Baptists"? Are you "Missionary Baptists"? Are you
    "Universalists"? Are you "Adventists"? Are you "Primitive
    Methodists"? etc., etc. We have several times tried to make clear
    our position, and now endeavor in a few words again to do so.
    We belong to NO earthly organization; hence, if you should name
    the entire list of sects, we should answer, No, to each and to all. We
    adhere only to that heavenly organization--"whose names are
    written in heaven." (Heb. 12:23; Luke 10:20.) All the saints now
    living, or that have lived during this age, belonged to OUR
    CHURCH ORGANIZATION; such are all ONE church, and there
    is NO OTHER recognized by the Lord. Hence any earthly
    organization which in the least interferes with this union of saints is
    contrary to the teachings of Scripture and opposed to the Lord's
    will--"that they may be ONE." (Jno. 17:11.)
    By what name may this Church be called? We answer, By the name
    of its founder and instituter--Christ. Hence it is the "Church of
    Christ" or "Church of God," for God founded it on the Rock Christ
    Jesus; or "Christians," as they were known in early times. (Acts.
    11:26; 26:28, and 1 Pet. 4:16.) But because Paul and the other
    disciples were not followers of Calvin's teachings, therefore they
    were not called Calvinists; because they were not followers of
    Luther's teachings and example, therefore they were not called
    Lutherans; but because they followed the ONE example and
    teachings of CHRIST only, therefore they gladly acknowledged it
    when they were called "Christians."
    What think you, do we not occupy the only ground of union?
    Suppose that all man-made creeds, and forms, and prayer-books,
    and liturgies, and names were laid aside, or that all Christians met
    in the one name of Christ, and in earnest simplicity studied HIS
    words under the direction of God's Spirit and the explanations
    furnished in the Apostle's writings, would there long be serious
    differences even of opinion in the Church?
    Was not that old saint, John Bunyan, who lay for years a prisoner in
    jail in Bedford, England, because he preached the doctrines of Jesus
    and the Apostles, in opposition to certain doctrines of the Episcopal
    Church, right when he said: "Since you would know by what name
    I would be distinguished from others, I tell you I would be, and
    hope I am, a Christian; and choose if God should count me worthy,
    to be called a Christian, a believer, or other such name which is
    approved by the Holy Ghost. And as for those faction (or sect) titles
    of Anabaptist, Presbyterian, Independent, or the like, I conclude
    that they
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    came neither from Antioch, nor from Jerusalem, but from Hell and
    Babylon, for they tend to divisions: you may know them by their
    fruits."
    But is it asked, Was not Bunyan a Baptist? We answer, yes, in the
    same manner that we are Baptist. He was a "Christian" and because
    in God's Word he was taught immersion, or baptism, and not
    sprinkling, and because he practiced with other humble saints his,
    faith, therefore by Episcopalians or the worldly such were, in
    derision, termed "Baptists," &c. So some now say that we are
    Baptists because we believe in the doctrine of baptism. Some
    incline to call us Calvinists because we believe what we find taught
    in Scripture, that the Church is elect according to the
    foreknowledge of God through sanctification of spirit and belief of
    the truth. (1 Pet. 1:2; 2 Thes. 2:13.) Some call us Adventists
    because we find taught in the Scriptures, and therefore believe, that
    the heavens received Jesus, only until the restitution of all things."
    And so, by whatsoever names men may call us, it matters not to us;
    we acknowledge none other name than "the only name given under
    heaven and among men"--Jesus Christ. We call ourselves simply
    CHRISTIANS and we raise no fence to separate from us any who
    believe in the foundation stone of our building mentioned by Paul:
    "That Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures"; and
    those for whom this is not broad enough have no right to the name
    Christian. --Watchtower Feb 1884
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    Yes, that heavenly organization has a representation on the earth. Accordingly we read: "Certainly, therefore, YOU are no longer strangers and alien residents, but YOU are fellow citizens of the holy ones and are members of the household of God, and YOU have been built up upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, while Christ Jesus himself is the foundation cornerstone. IN union with him the whole building, being harmoniously joined together, is growing into a holy temple for Jehovah. In union with him YOU, too, are being built up together into a place for God to inhabit by spirit." -Eph 2:19-22 Yes those ones making up the stones are still in the flesh. They are fully legally established by virtue of God's Word. They in themselves collectively become a house for Jehovah to inhabit by spirit. Thus they become the earthly manifestation of the heavenly organization called "Heavenly Jerusalem."-Heb 12:22
    Concerning that 'seed of Abraham' would they ever be given an earthly inheritance or house other than what is established in the scriptures? The scriptures says that they would be alien residents. They would be given no spiritual paridise while on earth, no but they would recieve that as part of the greater covenant of Abraham. That inheritance would be in heaven. In the meantime, they would have the baptism of Christ's death. Yes they would have to suffer as him, in order to be glorified as him. They would be given, no, not a footbreadth of an inheritance on the earth. The "congregation of the firstborn" is a house in themselves, no, not an earthly house, but a spiritual one. So God's house today is that which it always has been, since pentecost 33CE, namely Heavenly Jerusalem. And those who make up the 'stones' are the earthly manifestation of that spiritual house(1Pet 2:4).

    CT Russell and those with him established a means or channel for preaching. They made available 'helping hands for thinking Christians' by the printed page. Russell established himself as the president of this incorporated magazine in 1884. What they did was set up not a religious "house", but a business (although non-proffit) to send out religious material. They realized that they were not starting a religious house, but were already apart of one.......a heavenly one. They seen that to incorporate the magazine was to their benefit for legal reasons. Also colporteurs were sent out, and congregations were formed. But anyone who wanted to could become a colporteur, that was between them and Jehovah, no they were not appointed by the society, but the society would work in harmony with them by supplying literature and any other assistance that could be afforded. The society was used as a 'helping hand', not a ruling hand. Concerning the congregations that were formed, the society did not rule over them either, but they had their own body of elders that sheparded their congregations.........the societies role? to be there as a helping hand..(literature, etc.) Yes the society was made for the anointed, not the anointed for the society. The ' house of God' used the society as a channel...........the society not being 'the house of God'. Much like we can use a web site to promote the house of God.... not being that the web site IS the 'house of God'. Yes, "Which, in fact, is greater, the gold or the temple that has sanctified the gold?"-Matt 23:17

    But what has happened? The society is now called "the house of God" or "the gates of God". Yes, the transgressors have made it the ruling hand, not the helping hand. Jehovah's organization is no longer the one spoken of in the bible, namely "YOU yourselves also as living stones are being built up a spiritual house for the purpose of a holy priesthood to offer up spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ."-1Pet 2:5 But now it is said "You yourselves are being built up for the purpose of a holy nation to offer up spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God only through his earthly organization!!!!!!!" Yes, those who are in charge of the society are no longer only in charge of the nessesary things to do with printing material and helping the brothers, but are now OVER their brothers. They established themselves as their brother's governors, hence the term 'Governing Body'. Therefore this thing that was created by man, is dominating over those of the true 'house of God', and thereby holding those who are of the 'house of God' captive. It makes great boasts saying that it is 'God's faithful and discreet organization' and that it itself is God's prophet. It takes away from Christ's headship, and establishes its own. If indeed Jehovah did since the days of pentecost have a house, and that house is the same as spoken above in 1Pet 2:5, then did he disown that house to establish another house? May that never happen! Who then gave breath to this other house? Many in it don't even consider the anointed as of much account at all (those of the true house) but listen to organizational procedures and regulations as the law of Jehovah. They disown the headship of Jesus, but bow to the headship of imperfect men. They put the words of the society (watchtower) over God's word.
    This was something never intentioned by it's originators, CT Russell &c. They saying that they were of "the household of faith", and using that society to promote 'the household of faith'. Their goal was to establish Christ as head of the congregation, and to free thier fellow brothers from the yoke of bondage found in Christendom. Yes, they claimed as Jesus did,: "and YOU will know the truth, and the truth will set YOU free."-John 8:32 They knew that God "does not dwell in handmade temples"-acts 17:24 Yes, they knew that Jehovah is looking for people to worship him 'neither in this mountain or Jerusalem, but in SPIRIT and TRUTH(John 4:21-24). However, after CT Russel's death, it seems as though these things were thrown out the window. What happened? JF Rutherford (liked to be called 'Judge') made the helping hand the ruling hand. He made an organization (a religious one) ruler over the heavenly one. No, not overnight, but slowly and surely it happened. He established the 'Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society' as God's visible earthly organization. Further presidents of the society added to this. Now the anointed remnant are taken of as little or no account. Only those who are members of the 'Governing Body' are considered in all intent and purposes 'the faithful and discreet slave'. No longer are watchtowers coming out that say "Who will honor Jehovah?", but rather now they are saying, "Honor Jehovah's Organization." They fail to point out what the real organization is, but point to a corporation as a means of salvaition. Yes by doing so they become God dishonoring. They start to make a celebrated name for themselves. They begin to work in opposition to their head Jesus Christ. Yes, they no longer put thier trust in Jehovah, rather they put their trust in an organization (idol).

  • Prisca
    Prisca

    Yes, that is something that used to disturb me while I was in - how the organisation demands (and indeed, receives) the same honor and glory that should be directed towards God.

    I had to make a decision - follow my conscience and leave, or follow a man-made relgion who made these demands.

    The choice was easy!

  • Jang
    Jang

    Russell would be disfellowshipped today for that!!!!

    Interesting eh?

    JanG

  • outnfree
    outnfree

    Very nice post, littleone.

    I had read that old WT info before, but appreciate your well-thought-out comments at the end.

    Christ is MY Mediator! (at least I hope so.)
    outnfree

  • ozziepost
    ozziepost

    G'day littleone,

    "The little one has become a thousand", eh, by the length of your post

    point to a corporation as a means of salvaition

    I find it hard to believe that God would set up a corporation on earth, as if he needed one, to grant salvation !

    Jesus said: I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life.

    Cheers,

    Ozzie

  • Enlighted UK
    Enlighted UK

    Look at the WT&B Society track record - always having to make changes in policy, beliefs etc. What about Christmas, Birthdays and more importantly Blood transfussions. Don't you think that if God had decided to use one organisation on earth in order to teach mankind, he would make sure they understood his instructions the first time??

    From the way the society has to backtrack/change all the time, I don't believe they really are "God's organisation on earth".

    Just my thoughts.

  • kes152
    kes152

    There is no "true organization,"

    There is only a "kingdom" that is, the one in heaven.

    "For you have all not approached that which can be felt with hands (a physical, earthly organization) nor have you approached;

    that which has been set aflame with fire, and a dark cloud and thick darkness and a tempest, and a blare of a trumpet and the voice of words; on hearing which voice the people implored that no word should be added to them .....

    But YOU have approached a Mount Zion and a city of the living God, heavenly Jerusalem, and tens of thousands of angels to all-assembly and the "church" of the firstborn who have been written off in the heavens,

    and God the Judge of all, and the SPIRITS of righteous ones (check your footnote) who have been made perfect, and Jesus the mediator of a new covenant, and the blood of sprinkling that speaks in a better way than that of Abel's."

    May you have peace,
    Aaron

  • littleone
    littleone

    Kes152,

    I have no problem using the word 'organization',....let me explain:

    The root of the word 'organization' is 'organ' , thus an organization is a group of organs functioning together. I looked up the word in the 'online MSN Encarta dictionary' and the second meaning given to it was this...(2. coordination of elements: the coordinating of separate elements into a unit or structure ). So really, our bodies could be likened to an organization...different organs carrying on different functions, all controlled by our brain. The military could be likened to an organization...various soldiers carrying on different functions, all controlled by a central command (pentagon). Corporations, charities, churches, cities, Kingdoms etc... can all be called 'organizations'. Perhaps there is better terms we can use, ...I know, but really all the above mentioned can be called 'organizations'.

    Likewise 'the body of Christ' can be called an organization. I like to use 'church', but nevertheless it would not be wrong to call it one. CT Russell also used the term 'organization' in the article posted above, and I quote: "We have several times tried to make clear
    our position, and now endeavor in a few words again to do so.
    We belong to NO earthly organization; hence, if you should name
    the entire list of sects, we should answer, No, to each and to all. We
    adhere only to that heavenly organization--"whose names are
    written in heaven." (Heb. 12:23; Luke 10:20.) All the saints now
    living, or that have lived during this age, belonged to OUR
    CHURCH ORGANIZATION; such are all ONE church, and there
    is NO OTHER recognized by the Lord."
    You see, he likened the 'CHURCH' to an organization, no, not an earthly organization, but a heavenly one. He always used the term 'CHURCH' much like you do, but likened it to an organization, because technically it is one.

    We learn in 1 Corinthians 12:12-26 that the body of Christ is indeed an organization. And those who are apart of Christ's body do carry out different functions, ie..foot, eye, ear, etc... and all are controlled by the head, Jesus Christ himself. All who are apart of it become one body, or one organization (I know you don't like the term and I don't care much for it either, and yes, it is not in scripture, but technically it still is one)

    So is this organization an earthly one? No. All members of that body (organization) have their citizenship in heaven. Like you quoted above from Hebrews: "heavenly Jerusalem", "Church of the firstborn"...Yes all who are of the true seed of Abraham, are apart, no, not of an earthly house (organization), but of a heavenly one. I have to agree with CT Russell on this one... (like him or not) he never did claim that he was apart of any religious earthly organization, nor did he establish one....but he did claim that he was apart of a heavenly one....."heavenly Jerusalem"-Heb 12:22,23

    With love,
    littleone

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