Exposing WTBTS Lies & Errors - Part 6

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  • AGuest
    AGuest

    EXPOSING WATCHTOWER LIES & ERRORS Part VI “CHRIST SPEAKS TO THE CONGREGATIONS” The Watchtower, May 15, 2003

    Paragraph 10:

    "When on earth, Jesus spoke under the influence of the God's spirit. So we should pay attention to what God now says through him by holy spirit."

    An error - This statement by the WTBTS suggests that my Lord's speaking was limited to his time on the earth and that NOW the only way the Son speaks... is through the letters to the seven congregations in the Revelation. However, my Lord is ALIVE... and speaks to us NOW... by means of that same spirit. Then, it was on the earth. NOW... it is from the heavens. Hebrew 12:25

    And although some heard his voice audibly... with their physical ears (Acts 9:4-7)... and some by means of spirits sent to them (Acts 8:26; 10:3, 4)... still others heard it only within themselves. (Acts 8:10; 10:10, 13, 19; 15:19, 28) And how did such ones know? They "knew" the voice of my Lord (John 10:27).

    The WTBTS would have you believe, however, that the Father and Son are powerless, having less power than earthling man, than demons... than even beasts of burden! Yet, earthling man can speak to earthling man... demons can speak to earthling man... indeed, a beast of burden spoke! Can not the one who created speech... who gave us our tongue... who can loosen the tongue of beasts SPEAK TO US? Or have they made Him as the false gods who have eyes, but cannot see... mouths... but cannot speak?!

    The Holy One of Israel, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the One whose name is JAH... of Armies... can indeed speak! And at one time, He spoke to us by means of Prophets, the sayings of which have been written down and preserved down to this day. Today, however... TODAY... He speaks to us... BY MEANS OF A SON... the One whose voice the sheep HEAR! The "hired man" to whom the sheep do not belong, however, would have to you think different, that God is silent... and thus, impotent. God... is a SPIRIT... and it is by means of SPIRIT... that one can HEAR Him... and speak TO Him. However, neither... speaking or hearing... can be done... unless it is done... THROUGH THE SPIRIT... and THROUGH THE TRUTH ( Hebrews 1:2; John 10:1-15, 27; John 4:24; 2 Corinthians 3:17; John 14:6)

    "To him that conquers, I will grant to eat of the tree of life, which is in the paradise of God."

    For anointed ones... this means immortality in the heavenly "paradise of God," or Jehovah's very presence. The "great crowd"... will enjoy an earthly paradise where they will drink from "a river of water of life" and will find healing from "the leaves of the trees" alongside it.

    A lie - By this very statement, the WTBTS has now created TWO "paradises"... one in heaven and one on earth! Yet, there is only THE "paradise of God", which is a SPIRITUAL (heavenly) place... on earth! It is "New Jerusalem," which "comes down OUT of heaven"... so that the "meek" WILL "inherit the earth," so that the earth IS "inhabited"... and in the EARTH... "righteousness is the dwell." (Revelation 21:2,3; 20:9)

    And both groups... the 144,000 AND the "great crowd"... "eat"... from the Tree of Life, which IS my Lord, the Son of God ... by means of EATING HIS FLESH... and "drink" from the "river" that flows from within HIM... by means of drinking his blood. For there is only ONE Tree... the One which IS the Life. The WTBTS, however, has created a LIE by means of teaching that there are "trees" from which we must eat... "trees" the leaves of which "cure" the nations... when in FACT... there is only ONE Tree. The Greek word that they have mistransliterated at Revelation 22:1 to read "trees"... is actually "tree"... and in "there is A tree"... one... not man y.

    John 15:1-7; John 4:10, 14; John 7:37, 38; John 6:48-56; 1 Corinthians 10:1-4; Exodus 12:47-49; Numbers 11:4-6; Revelation 22:1, 2, 15

    Thus, just as Israel AND the "vast mixed number" who went with them from Egypt... ATE THE MANNA... and DRANK from the Rock-Mass that is Christ... Israel (the 144,000)... AND the "great crowd"... must eat the flesh and drink the blood of Christ... the TRUE VINE... the "Root" of Jesse... "SPROUT!"... to be "cured" of the sin and death IN them... so as live forever.

    For there is NO other means by which such life (everlasting) can be had. It is the flesh of Christ... "leaves" of this Tree... the Tree of LIFE (John 14:6; 15:1)... and his blood... "water"... HOLY SPIRIT... from his "river" (John 7:37, 38) ... from which we... Israel AND the nations (great crowd)... must eat and drink. For it is "true" food and "true" drink.

    Genesis 3:22; John 15:1, 4; John 6:56, 51-53

    Let the one that is wishing... and the one that is thirsting... and the one who is hearing hear what the Spirit and the Bride KEEP saying:

    "Come! Take "life's water"... free!"

    I, myself, SJ, have spoken it to you... just as I heard and received it from my Lord, JAHESHUA MISCHAJAH, the Son and Christ of the Holy One of Israel, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, whose name is JAH... of Armies.

    Servant to the Household of God, Israel, and all those who go with them... and a slave of Christ,

    SJ

  • joe_from_kokomo
    joe_from_kokomo

    Another great posting. And I also enjoyed your point about the "Tree of Life" vs. the "Trees of Life", having been taught that the later was the case. In fact, I was quite surprised that most Bible translations DO have this rendered as "Tree of Life". I went to the Web site: http://www.biblegateway.com/ and checked several different translations and almost all say "Tree of Life", including the NIV, KJV, American Standard Version, Amplified Version, etc, when rendering Revelation 22:2.

    But, to be completely accurate, something the WTS would never do, it is important to note that there are other translations that do say "Trees of Life" in this passage, so the NWT is not alone if this is in fact mistransliterated. Put another way, others besides the WTS are mistranslating this verse.

    See this excerpt from the Contemporary English Version, as posted on http://www.biblegateway.com/

    Revelation 22
    2 Then it flowed down the middle of the city's main street. On each side of the river are trees [1] that grow a different kind of fruit each month of the year. The fruit gives life, and the leaves are used as medicine to heal the nations.

    Footnotes
    1. 22.2 trees: The Greek has "tree," which is used in a collective sense of trees on both sides of the heavenly river.

    Sorry to weaken your point there, as I could certainly make an equivalent point about the NWT mis-rendering and misapplication of Lev 5:1, which has me quite torked off at the moment, when I discovered how they have bent and twisted that scripture to their advantage. This one, though, just seems like a minor word choice issue.
  • AGuest
    AGuest

    Hey, there, Joe... and peace to you!

    You did not, in fact, weaken my point: do the others claim to be the "Faithful and Discreet Slave" whom God appointed to give the "domestics" their "food"... "at the proper time?"

    Given that it is Christ, the (Tree of) Life... the "faithful and true witness"... who "feeds" the sheep, by means of his flesh (true food - leaves) and blood (true drink - water)... and it those whom HE "sends"... and who profess such sending rather than denying... and who lead the sheep to HIM... rather than to themselves... give the glory to HIM... versus to themselves...

    I think that my point stands, dear one. Even if others use the word "tree(s)"... THEY have the greater obligation... by means of who they wish YOU to believe they are... to be accurate. Don't 'cha think?

    Peace to you!

    Your servant and a slave of Christ,

    SJ

  • DJ
    DJ

    Interesting Shelby. The Tree of life and we are His branches who bear fruit, right? The heavenly Jerusalem has a measurement in the bible, right. I always sounded very tiny to me. Of course it is metric which I have totally blocked out since jr. high....Do you know why there is a measurement given and if it is small? If so, why? That always confused me. Thanks, dj

  • AGuest
    AGuest

    Hello, dearest DJ... and peace to you!

    The Tree of life and we are His branches who bear fruit, right?

    YES!! 'Cause "branches" are found... ON A TREE... yes? And we... are "in union" with him, right?

    Do you know why there is a measurement given

    It is the measurement of "us"... the "temple"... of what we truly "are"... (1 Corinthians 3:16)

    and if it is small?

    Ah, DJ... let me help you understand a "truth": dear one, I do not yet know "all" things, for not all has not yet been given me by my Lord. What I DO know, however, I will share with you:

    The size of things often times depends on what we are "comparing" it to. If something physical, then, I would have to say, in comparison to the measurements we know of, yes, it seems small. If spiritual, however, I have to tell you that in the spirit realm, such things as time... and space... are much different. Almost ALL time... and ALL space... is small... truly minute. So that whatever is "measured" spiritually, would, in fact, appear quite small, but such smallness is relative, given the "space" of the non-physical world... which, as far as mass is concerned... is non-existent.

    You see, in the physical world, mass occupies space. No two pieces of mass, however small, can occupy the same space. In the non-physical world, however, two... ummmm... "items" CAN occupy the same space, as they are not mass; they do not take up "space". So what seems to occupy a piece of "space" does not, really. So what? So... what I have learned (and seen) about the spirit realm is that something can be as small... and as large... as it is "wished" to be. This is because there is no "restriction" on space such as there is in the physical realm.

    Now, I truly do not know why the specific measurements given were. It was never something I entertained asking about, nor have I "heard" anything of it. That does not mean it's not important or noteworthy; it just means that the answer has not been "given" to me. Perhaps it is not mine to have... now or even later. This, too, I do not know. But I think I can direct you to the proper "source" if you are truly "thirsting"...

    If so, why?

    Thus, I bid you to ASK... the One in whom resides ALL truth! Ask the Father to send that One to you... the Spirit of the Truth... and ask him.

    That always confused me.

    Only that? Well, you've done much better than I! I just don't "sweat" it anymore: whatever I want to know... I know who to ask. If I "hear", wonderful. If I don't... I am patient, because whatever he wants ME to know... he will me. Sooner... or later.

    Thanks, dj

    You are quite welcome, dear one! Again, the greatest of peace to you!

    Your servant and a slave of Christ,

    SJ

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