Do JW's believe that TWO nations were created?

by BoogerMan 2 Replies latest watchtower bible

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  BoogerMan

  One at Pentecost 33 C.E. and another in 1919? Or were they "overlapping nations?"

  w02 8/1 p. 12 par. 16 - Today, there is a new “nation” that has Jehovah as its invisible Judge, its Statute-giver, and its King. That “nation” came into existence in the first century C.E.

  it-2 p. 473 - "When God’s spirit was first poured out upon about 120 disciples of Jesus (all natural Jews) on the day of Pentecost in the year 33 C.E., it became evident that God was dealing with a new spiritual nation." (Galatians 6:16)

  w14 11/15 p. 26 par. 11 “Now You Are God’s People” "In 1919, Jehovah...gathered “the sons of the Kingdom” into an organized people, in fulfillment of Isaiah’s prophecy: “Will a land be brought to birth in one day? (at Pentecost 33 C.E.?) Or will a nation be born all at once? Yet, as soon as Zion went into labor, she gave birth to her sons.” (Isa. 66:8) Zion, Jehovah’s organization of spirit beings, brought forth her spirit-anointed sons and organized them into a nation."
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  Sea Breeze

  Yes, they try to teach this. They have to reach back and grab some OT lingo and put a symbolic spin on it and presto! They think there is another way to get saved other than through the blood covenant. Only trouble is NT theology talks about "one new man" not two:

  Eph. 2: 12 - you were at that time separated from Christ, alienated from the commonwealth of Israel and strangers to the covenants of promise, having no hope and without God in the world. 13 But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far off have been brought near by the blood of Christ. 14 For he himself is our peace, who has made us both one and has broken down in his flesh the dividing wall of hostility 15 by abolishing the law of commandments expressed in ordinances, that he might create in himself one new man in place of the two, so making peace,
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  Jeffro

  In 2013 they quietly translated away their awkward rendering of “the kingdom of the son of his love” as a separate kingdom that started at Pentecost. They still technically believe that that refers to a kingdom that the anointed were under starting from then.