Blondie's "highlights" from the May 2024 Study WT Paragraphs 11-17 (PART 2)

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  blondie

  Blondie's "highlights" from the May 2024 Study WT Paragraphs 11-17 PART 2

  MAY 2024 STUDY ARTICLE COMMENTS #2

  WHAT WE DO KNOW

  Paragraph #11

  What basis will people be judged at Armageddon…

  A) “People will be dealt with on the basis how they have treated Christ’s brothers” (but those know that Christ’s brothers are only jws who believe they will go to heaven?)

  B) “We also know that some of Christ’s brothers will still be on the earth after the great tribulation starts”

  C) “and will not be taken to heaven until shortly before the outbreak of heaven”

  (That brings to mind the WTS once taught that some of the “anointed” would still be on earth AFTER Armageddon, but when does the “marriage of the Bride of Christ and Jesus take place so that all of the anointed are all in heaven? All the anointed will have to be heaven then; will the younger “anointed” have to be taken before natural death to be there for the wedding? Or will they miss the wedding? Haha)

  So the WTS “reasons” “As long as the brothers of Christ are still on earth, IT IS POSSIBLE that honest-hearted individuals will have the opportunity to support them and the work they are doing…Why are those FACTS significant?

  Paragraph #12

  “Even after the great tribulation starts, IT IS POSSIBLE that some who see the destruction of “Babylon the Great” will recall that Jehovah’s Witnesses had long spoken of this event. MIGHT some who see these events have a change of heart?

  (In the past the WTS has said that those who survive must have the “mark” and that is baptism. Will those people be baptized? ‘The act of baptism is a vital part of “the mark” that identifies you for salvation.​—Ezekiel 9:4-6.’

  Paragraph #13

  “Would be similar to what occurred in Egypt…’a vast mixed company’ joined Israel in the Exodus.” Some MAY HAVE started to develop faith…IF a similar development should occur following the destruction of Babylon the Great” “ (but would there be time for baptism?)

  Paragraphs #14-15

  “At times, we hear someone (a jw) say, ‘It would be better if my relative (or friend?) dies before the great tribulation begins so there is hope for his (her) resurrection…a person’s eternal future does not depend on when (WTS BOLD) he happens to die” (for years the WTS has talked about a judgment period during which if people died, they would not be resurrected but eternal destruction, comparing it to those who died during the flood. They compared the shutting of the ark’s door as the end. Now the WTS is trying to “clarify” that teaching. But now from the great tribulation to Armageddon, people can still be “saved”!)

  Paragraph #15

  “IT IS ALSO REASONABLE TO CONCLUDE (but the bible does not say) that a person’s eternal future does not depend on where he happens to live.” (The WTS in the past used their concept of “community responsibility” to say that individuals guilty although not hearing the WT message). Now they tell their members “It is unthinkable that Jehovah would automatically as “goats” millions of people who live in lands where they never had an opportunity to respond to the Kingdom message.” (But not unthinkable for the WTS to teach that in the past). “We do not know how Jehovah will maneuver events during the great tribulation. PERHAPS some of this will have…(The WTS has taught that jws after the great tribulation would preach a “warning” message to non-jws not with the goal of having them become jws though.)

  Paragraph #16

  “Through our study of the Bible (as explained by the WTS and clarified later as this article does)

  Paragraph #17

  “These clarifications actually make our preaching work more urgent than ever…what motivates to keeping preaching”?? What do you think?

  (So the WTS is trying to change many long-held beliefs, to appear more loving to non-jws, to get jws to drop those ideas that make the WTS look bad to outsiders, to help them win court cases? I can only speculate)

  FINAL CLOSING COMMENTS

  Many of these clarified points, have been covered many times on JWN, by me and others, and now the WTS is up to speed. Where was the holy spirit for them, why does it seem that we knew ahead of time?

  COMMUNITY RESPONSIBILITY

  · 1952 COMMUNITY RESPONSIBILITY

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  In addition to family responsibility the Bible shows a communal or community responsibility, where a community upholds or goes along with rulers that persecute Jehovah’s people or are otherwise wicked.
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  NotFormer

  " (but those know that Christ’s brothers are only jws who believe they will go to heaven?)"

  I'm of the opinion that the definition of Christ's brothers is going to be narrowed down to refer only to the GB.

  So this: “People will be dealt with on the basis how they have treated Christ’s brothers”, particularly this "...how they have treated Christ’s brothers” will mean "how obedient they were to GB dictums".

  It's a hunch I've had since they've been pointing out Jesus' brothers in their articles. Them being called "future kings" by sycophants doesn't ease my suspicions.

  Jesus may have returned invisibly, but his brothers, the GB (🤮), are fully visible, and are to be obeyed the way you would obey Jesus.

  I'm still very interested in what's in the August Watchtower.
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  Beth Sarim

  You know,,,I cant ever remember a watchtower article being held back. Like this August issue.

  Then having subsequent(following) months released before the delayed issue is released.

  Thanks Blondie for your hard work.

  Where was the Holy Spirit & why we knew them before them & ahead of time?

  Perhaps,, because maybe it wasn't with the Borg,,ever.
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  WingCommander

  @NotFormer: That is already what they are referring to. The F&DS is now ONLY considered to the be Governing Body, so how you treat THEM (AKA: Christ's Brothers, leading his earthly Organization) is paramount to your salvation.

  However, even this in itself isn't a new concept. The old brown "Reasoning from the Scriptures" book spells out how Jesus ransom sacrifice was only for the 144,000, and only by being associated and in good standing with THEM, does mankind or anyone have any hope of making it thru. They even labeled themselves as "The Greater Moses."

  So JESUS stated that He, "was the Truth, the Life, and the Way, and no one comes to the Father except thru ME,".........................

  But along come a group of old Geezers in New York. They proclaim themselves to the F&DS, and they alone (now only the Governing Body) and everyone's salvation depends upon kissing their asses and bowing to their every command, or ELSE!

  What total blasphemy. In fact, they fit the description of the "Evil Slave" to a "T"! Jesus said to be on the lookout for those coming after Him claiming they were Him, speaking for Him, saying he was in some invisible chamber, and demanding you to follow after them. So Lett's examine that warning:

  Those that came after Him (Jesus): Several throughout history of course, including Mohammad. (False prophet)

  Governing Body:

  Claim to be appointed by Holy Spirit, and chosen by Jesus Himself in 1919 after an invisible, investigative judgment. (borrowed from the Adventists loaded language of course)

  Claim to speak for Jesus and Yahweh as the only mouthpiece of divine distribution. The bible? Secondary to whatever the hell they say, that day, week, or year. Even questioning what they say is considered Apostasy, a far cry from the praise Paul heaped upon the Boreans for making sure of all things.

  Claim that Jesus is ruling, but invisibly. Since 1914. With no proof besides the outbreak of WW2, over 100 years ago. This, in direct contradiction to the bible which states that upon Jesus return, "every eye would see." Sooooooo........NOT invisibly then, right? RIGHT? "Invisible parousia" - my ass! Him arriving in the sky for every eye to see also makes logical sense: It proves Jesus and Jesus alone as King of King and validates the Christian belief system. Jesus rides up: BOOM! Immediately solves the age-old question as whose religion is right. No more guessing. Allah and Xeno a no show? Sucks to be you!

  Claim you must follow them, no matter what.....even it doesn't make sense from a human standpoint. So they're going the Jim Jones / David Koresh route now? Sure as hell seems like it! Listen, OBEY, and be Blessed! Oh, and DONATE, suckers!

  Jesus also made the statements that His followers would be recognizable by the love they show, and their works, charity, etc.

  Governing Body: ZERO charitable organizations set up to help anyone, but themselves at WT HQ! No orphanages, retirement homes (Fishkill for the elderly elite Bethelites doesn't count, assholes!) soup kitchens, hospitals, homeless shelters, drug treatment centers, mental health / counciling services, and the list goes on. Charity to the Governing Body is the rank-n-file Sheeple handing over every last nickle to THEM, even in death! You got kids? Fugg 'em! They want....errr.....DEMAND......that you leave your pitiful estate to them, the Governing Body! Your kids are worldly and no good anyway. These grifters want it ALL!

  Sicking, disgusting, money-grubbing CULT led by slimy, weasely used car salesman types without a lick of class or humility among them. They wouldn't know "Christian Love" if it bent them over and banged them! The only bending over going on, is done by the Governing Body to the rank-n-file as they simultaneously screw them spiritually, and rape their wallets physically.
  
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  LongHairGal

  WING COMMANDER:

  Oh, IF the rank & file Witnesses only knew even half of what of what you posted (which is the God’s honest truth) maybe they would snap out of their trance!

  It’s really very tragic when you look at the JW religion honestly and add up all these negatives.. Too bad the world doesn’t know these things… The religion has NO redeeming qualities as far as I am concerned.. But, how can anybody who wants to leave escape unscathed?

  Worst case scenario some people are devastated by their experience.. Others may not have it so bad but there would even be some residual damage to the ‘luckiest’ person there who leaves.. Maybe they have a few phobias that remind them from time to time of their experience.. I had a little OCD which I managed…I consider myself ‘lucky’ I was scoffed at and avoided because I was that low hour publisher who worked full-time.. But their meanness made it so much easier to ‘Fade’ when the time was overdue to make my exit from this awful thing.
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  Biahi

  Wing Commander, tell us how you really feel! Great post! Thanks also, LHG!