Thus Spoke Zarathustra - audiobook

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  Brokeback Watchtower

  Nietzsche wrote this 1883-1891 a parable about the death of God and prophesizes about the superman. Moral responsibility/universality is questioned in depth, altruistic concern, guilt for wrongdoing, moral responsibility, the value of compassion, the demand for equal consideration of persons, was examined by this soon to be insane(1889) intellectual philosopher.

  CG Jung says that Nietzsche was under the possession of an archetype from the collective unconscious and I think a closer examination suggest this is true.

  http://www.depthinsights.com/Depth-Insights-scholarly-ezine/e-zine-issue-3-fall-2012/jungs-reception-of-friedrich-nietzsche-a-roadmap-for-the-uninitiated-by-dr-ritske-rensma/

  With this in mind here is the reading in English :

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sv5IyRuEVI4
  

  Nietzsche is arguably most famous for his criticisms of traditional European moral commitments, together with their foundations in Christianity. This critique is very wide-ranging; it aims to undermine not just religious faith or philosophical moral theory, but also many central aspects of ordinary moral consciousness, some of which are difficult to imagine doing without (e.g., altruistic concern, guilt for wrongdoing, moral responsibility, the value of compassion, the demand for equal consideration of persons, and so on).
  
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  venus

  I feel for Nietzsche who ignored the simple fact that humans cannot conceive something greater than themselves and believed that no being higher than humans exists.
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  Ruby456

  Nietzsche was critiquing modern atheism and its nihilism. This atheism did not know that the overman had come and rendered modern atheism as engaged in its own demise, its own negation. But I think it is important to remember that modern atheism is a phase we go through to become free spirits who recognise that we welcome our animal nature as well as our enlightened one.

  And yes this modern atheism had its foundation in Christianity in that it was part of the protestant part that was involved with the growth of capitalism. The older atheism as practiced by Zarathusthra and people like Xenophanes is different. but this is a long story and I wish you well on your journey.
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  dropoffyourkeylee

  Personally I have found Nietzsche difficult to read.
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  venus

  dropoffyourkeylee, That is because Nietzsche had a tunnel vision. Look at his famous quote: “We should call every truth false which was not accompanied by at least one laugh” (something that does not make you laugh is not truth?!)
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  Brokeback Watchtower

  That is because Nietzsche had a tunnel vision. Look at his famous quote: “We should call every truth false which was not accompanied by at least one laugh”

  I admit I feel the same. You should read what C J Jung had to say about the whole thing in a bunch of seminars:

  http://www.depthinsights.com/Depth-Insights-scholarly-ezine/e-zine-issue-3-fall-2012/jungs-reception-of-friedrich-nietzsche-a-roadmap-for-the-uninitiated-by-dr-ritske-rensma/
  
  
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  venus

  Brokeback Watchtower, I read that link.

  Nietzsche was offspring of the time in which Church was presenting a God who made the innocent (Jesus) suffer for the guilty [by extension the rest of the innocent], teaching the whimsical account of the creation and the strange story of Eve- the snake and the apple, and the Christian system of strange arithmetic, that three are one, and one is three … eternal torment, forgiveness of sins through priests … hence Nietzsche had to go to the other extreme saying such a God can’t exist.