Hi, I'm not nor ever have been a Jdub, but I've read that book, and it's terribly depressing that Raymond is called an apostate, it's only a protection for their false teachings, because an Apostate biblically is one who turns and teaches against GOD and JESUS....any other labeling of apostate is false. I wrote this question recently to a practising Jdub, it's a bit long, and the first part is setup of, sorry for the ginormity ************** b. What would you think of ME if I were to say of MYSELF, rather than an organization, that I was 'Jehovah's sole channel of Biblical truth to earth' or that Jehovah was the Father and I am the Mother? Or what if I were to say that if you disagreed with what I was saying as 'Jehovah's sole channel' that you disagreed with Jehovah? (implicitly or explicitly) What if I were to say that the only way to be Loyal to Jehovah would be to be Loyal to me, and me exclusively in all the world? What would I be saying of myself explicitly, implicitly? Since I COULD say that indeed anyone can, how would people tell if what I said of myself were true? What would be the 'proof' or 'evidence?' Do any persons in the earth today have reason to claim that? Why? What if I were to say that if you disobeyed what I said you were disobeying Jehovah and no longer had his blessing? What if I called you an Apostate if you disagreed with ME and ONLY ME, and were teaching against ME ONLY, and NOT JESUS OR GOD WHATSOEVER, would you be an apostate by Biblical definition? (The Bible says that teaching against GOD, turning against and teaching against GOD means you are an apostate)What if I were a false teacher, and I was misleading others (to their destruction), and though you were the most likely to help them of anyone because you knew what I taught, and you had discovered (through the Bible, Biblical writers, and History) that I was a false teacher, and you wouldn't keep silent for the sake of others, but I wouldn't allow them to hear or read anything that was against me or what I said (critical of), even though it was unbiblical and wrong. Do you think that is doing a disservice to Jehovah?,Do you think that Jehovah would want a former member say of the Moonies, Mormons, theosophy, the Way International, WWCOG, etc. to be SILENT about their misguidance? Exposing and refuting what Jehovah says is very wicked indeed,,,,leading His sheep astray (and doing it mockingly so with His own Word) Would the fact that I labeled those who taught against ME and only ME were 'Apostates' I was protecting my own deception at that point,,,even perhaps telling my followers that 'other' beliefs and that which was 'CONDEMNING' rather than 'Critical of me, because, I HAD SAID IT, I HAD TAUGHT IT, CONDEMNING MYSELF, was SATANIC PROPOGANDA, first of all, would it be? second, would that be a tactic useful to MY false teaching, or useful in the Interest of Jehovah? Protecting my own errant, false interpretation at that point (to the harm of others, and to the bane of Jehovah)? Do you think that I wouldn't want others to see what the 'apostates' had written for the sake of Jehovah,,,for the sake of their salvation by Him? What does the imposition of 'no hearing, no reading, no speaking [to]' do to those who are being misled by me at this point? Would you say that the silence was protecting my false teaching (not only allowing those in my 'care' to remain ignorant and deceived, but to other potential adherents)? Would you say that people should be silent when they've been deceived? What happens when you allow a lie to go unchallenged? ************ by the way, I have a question for former JW's,,,are you allowed to even get near an 'apostate' book, I mean, are you taught to recognize where the info is coming from, if it is from an 'apostate' source? shpanks Myxomatosis