Good read from today newspaper in Holland about new juridical actions by jw.org

by Gorbatchov 6 Replies latest jw friends

  • Gorbatchov
    Gorbatchov

    Abuse

    Why the Jehovah's go full on the legal organ

    The Jehovah's Witnesses do not accept the results of scientific research under any circumstances. They go to court again. Is there an explanation for their response?

    Rianne Oosterom24 January 2020, 19:21

    Now that Jehovah's Witnesses have not been able to stop the report of the abuse report, they are taking further legal action. Whether that is an appeal or a new indictment of defamation, defamation or discrimination, a spokesperson for the organization does not yet say. But it is certain that the riot around the report will get a legal tail.

    The defensive reaction of the denomination arouses anger. For example, minister Sander Dekker called it "incomprehensible" that the Jehovah's Witnesses ignore the report and recommendations. Earlier, the denomination cooperated with the investigation. The researchers were even allowed to view an abuse file from a vault in the basement of a church. The many newspaper articles and TV reports that have since appeared on the subject never became the subject of a lawsuit. Is there a trend break with this legal battle? No, cult expert and coach Frances Peters explains. As an ex-Witness, in her practice she guides people who have left a cult. Win win situation She points to the many international lawsuits that Jehovah's Witnesses are conducting, for example about blood transfusion, but also about sexual abuse. According to her, they look strategically on a case-by-case basis on what is best and how they can lose the least members.

    Peters: “A lawsuit is a win-win situation for them. If they win, it is because of Jehovah's blessing, and if they lose, they can portray themselves as martyrs, as persecuted; in line with Bible apostles who were persecuted by the state for their beliefs and beliefs. " Anyway, the reaction to the research shows something of their world view, Peters sees. They tend to see critical information from the outside world as coming from Satan. A good example is a study article that the organization distributed in November last year with the subject: how do you deal with lies? Satan, they write, is the father of lies. "He uses the people he has in his power to spread lies about Jehovah and our brothers and sisters. For example, there are apostates who distort the facts and proclaim lies about Jehovah's organization on websites and through TV and other media. Those lies belong to Satan's burning arrows. " It is as if it concerns the abuse file. When asked how a good believer should respond, the article is clear: "Refuse to listen! Why? Because you have faith in Jehovah and your brothers. Even avoid any contact with apostates. Don't let anything or anyone - not even your own curiosity - seduce you into a discussion with them. "

    Attack on who they are

    This is reflected in the response to the report. But where newspaper publications are easier to dismiss as lies, in the case of the investigation they have to deal with a minister who is panting on their necks to change something. The letter that the board sent to the minister also shows that they see the recommendations as an attack on who they are. For example, the researchers want women to be given a more prominent role - something that is not biblical according to Jehovah's Witnesses - and that elders are better educated. Peters: “They will never allow outside influence. They want to keep control over what they learn and how they teach their elders. ” That is precisely why this point of principle is for Jehovah's Witnesses, Peters thinks. "They will put their entire lawyers' clique on it, so that attention is diverted from what is actually wrong: namely that abused children are not being helped properly."

  • Half banana
    Half banana

    Thanks for this Gorby. JW leadership imagines they have a divine mandate to do what they like. Not only do they teach that their followers should only believe the HQ viewpoint but they deny scientific evaluation and they even feel empowered to distort historical time to suit their own narrative as in 537/607 BCE.

    Independence of mind is indeed a strength but when independence from law seriously injures the well being of innocent children, common sense alone should kick in-- but that is not allowed with Jehovah's Witnesses. The JW governing body claim that their wisdom trumps common sense!

    As Peters points out they garner credit for their notoriety in court cases whether they win or lose. For a JW the real complexity of life is reduced to a simple choice between "the organisation" and Satan. This is profoundly childish and the reason why JWs do not flourish as useful members of society at large.

  • Vidiot
    Vidiot

    All this legal scrambling by the Org's lawyers just demonstrates to me what I've already long suspected...

    ...that the WTS is becoming increasingly desperate to keep this shit out of the Public Record.

  • Vidiot
    Vidiot
    "According to her, they look strategically on a case-by-case basis on what is best and how they can lose the least members."

    I absolutely believe that.

  • Acluetofindtheuser
    Acluetofindtheuser

    Eric Wilson's recent video talks about a similar matter. This is where the WT is telling all the members to avoid any broadcast that may imply fault with the organization on child abuse.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEvsuKnK1J4

  • smiddy3
    smiddy3

    Another excellent video from this man Eric Wilson

    “A lawsuit is a win-win situation for them. If they win, it is because of Jehovah's blessing, and if they lose, they can portray themselves as martyrs, as persecuted; in line with Bible apostles who were persecuted by the state for their beliefs and beliefs. "

    Now that Jehovah's Witnesses have not been able to stop the report of the abuse report, they are taking further legal action.

    What have they got to hide going to all of this expense hiring lawyers to defend their interpretation of scripture in a court of law.

    And donations from JW`s are used for this grandstanding.

    And not furthering the preaching work of the Good News of Jesus Kingdom.

  • Vidiot
    Vidiot
    Acluetofindtheuser - "...the WT is telling all the members to avoid any broadcast that may imply fault with the organization..."

    I often find myself gobsmacked at just how clueless the WT leadership really seems to be, sometimes...

    ...I mean - human nature being what it is - telling someone "don't look over there" damn near guarantees that all but the most braindead obediants will absolutely look over there (and even then...).

    Christ, has no one at WTHQ ever heard of the Streisand Effect?

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