i was thinking isnt it strange how everything in the bible like prophecys and god telling ppl what to do etc was always relayed by dreams ,visions and real things seen and heard .but today theres is nothing
just flashes of light new teachings that dont come via any usual way god does things. when he told ppl stuff in the bible he got into a dream or they heard his voice.so how do they come about for the WTS? well theres the coal story.
proclaimers book 1993 pages 577-8 26 Producing Bible Literature for Use in the Ministry "Brother Rutherford instructed C. A. Wise, the Society's vice president, to go to Brooklyn to see about reopening Bethel and renting premises where the Society could begin printing operations. Desirous of knowing what course God would bless, Brother Rutherford said: "Go and see whether it is the Lord's will for us to return back to Brooklyn."
"How will I determine as to whether it is the Lord's will for us to go back or not?" asked Brother Wise.
"It was a failure to get coal supplies in 1918 that drove us from Brooklyn back to Pittsburgh," Brother Rutherford replied. "Let's make coal the test. You go and order some coal."
"How many tons do you think I should order to make the test?"
"Well, make it a good test," Brother Rutherford recommended. "Order 500 tons."
That is exactly what Brother Wise did. And what was the outcome? When he applied to the authorities, he was granted a certificate to get 500 tons of coal-enough to care for their needs for a number of years! But where were they going to put it? Large sections of the basement of the Bethel Home were converted into coal storage.
The result of this test was taken as an unmistakable indication of God's will."
when i was akid i used to say ..if that car parks on the right side of the road im going to get a bike for my birthday..if it parks on the left im not going to get one...surly the coal story is no better than that and certainly nothing like gods representitives on earth/the prophets and there connection with god?
in the bible a request would have been made to god and advice via the prophet and the answer would have been given via the prophet.isreal never had gods phrophets saying go to war if we lose he didnt want us to do it if we win he did.........he would ask what should we do and get answer from god himself .lots of instances for gods advice are in the bible . but yet the WTS doesnt not make a request .
if you dont get an answer theres no one there or your not a prophet surely?
everything is unvisible and unseen no vision no dreams no nothing .even jesus second coming (according to the bible all men will see it and theres signs in heaven and earth) came with out any signs whats so ever.....WW1 ?..... er no one mention the boer war and all the other wars before that nepoleonnic etc.....er wasnt that a sign of christ coming in 19th century?
truth is if anyone in the Org today said i had a dream or i saw a vision .ppl would get a doctor to him.if he heard voices they would say he was mentally ill .spiritual things are the last thing to be attributed in the attempt to be more scientific and reasonable,not so in the meetings though.....if a fly drops dead when some one says the word revelation you can be sure someone will say thats a sign .